I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
use.
Orca's terminal support sucks.
I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hi,
Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the graphical terminal with sudo.
Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have speech on the login prompt.

-- 
Best wishes,
Zahari

  Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500

> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> use.
> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
directory".
I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.

What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?

On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the
> graphical terminal with sudo.
> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
> speech on the login prompt.
>
> --
> Best wishes,
> Zahari
>
>   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>
>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>> use.
>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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>

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Howdy,

speakup is an kernel module.
installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel 
modules i think.
you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd.
you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel
"sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft"
after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use 
espeak as speech synth for speakup.
by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to 
find that very useful information.
if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should 
prefer that way instead of using a tarball.

if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be 
able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace 
screenreader without need of kernel module stuff.

cheers chrys

Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
> directory".
> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
>
> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
>
> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
>> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the
>> graphical terminal with sudo.
>> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
>> speech on the login prompt.
>>
>> --
>> Best wishes,
>> Zahari
>>
>>    Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>>
>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>>> use.
>>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hi,
Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably
already available, so you don't need to install it separately.
Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's
included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded
something very old.
If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it)
it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with:
sudo modprobe speakup_soft
To have this done automatically on startup, do:
sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf

Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher.
Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library.
If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to
use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use
speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up.
Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example.

So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and do:
sudo espeakup

If it says ""command not found", find where it is with:
which espeakup
and include the full path, e. g.:
sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup

-- 
Best wishes,
Zahari

  Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500

> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
> directory".
> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
> 
> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
> 
> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
> > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the
> > graphical terminal with sudo.
> > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
> > speech on the login prompt.
> >
> > --
> > Best wishes,
> > Zahari
> >
> >   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
> >
> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> >> use.
> >> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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> sudo modprobe speakup_soft

I got
Modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_soft': Required key not available


On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably
> already available, so you don't need to install it separately.
> Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's
> included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded
> something very old.
> If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it)
> it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with:
> sudo modprobe speakup_soft
> To have this done automatically on startup, do:
> sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf
>
> Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher.
> Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library.
> If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to
> use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use
> speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up.
> Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example.
>
> So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and
> do:
> sudo espeakup
>
> If it says ""command not found", find where it is with:
> which espeakup
> and include the full path, e. g.:
> sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup
>
> --
> Best wishes,
> Zahari
>
>   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500
>
>> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
>> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
>> directory".
>> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
>> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
>> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
>>
>> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
>>
>> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
>> > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from
>> > the
>> > graphical terminal with sudo.
>> > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
>> > speech on the login prompt.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Zahari
>> >
>> >   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>> >
>> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>> >> use.
>> >> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Blinux-list mailing list
>> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >
>>
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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I got the same error: could not insert 'speakup': key not available.
I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.

On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> speakup is an kernel module.
> installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel
> modules i think.
> you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd.
> you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel
> "sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft"
> after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use
> espeak as speech synth for speakup.
> by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to
> find that very useful information.
> if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should
> prefer that way instead of using a tarball.
>
> if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be
> able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace
> screenreader without need of kernel module stuff.
>
> cheers chrys
>
> Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
>> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
>> directory".
>> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
>> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
>> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
>>
>> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
>>
>> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
>>> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from
>>> the
>>> graphical terminal with sudo.
>>> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
>>> speech on the login prompt.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Zahari
>>>
>>>    Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>>>
>>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>>>> use.
>>>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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Howdy,

seems that speakup is not installed on your system. in case of success 
it should not give any output to you.
speakup lives in the "staging" area of the kernel. that means it is 
considered to be unstable/ experimental. the result of this is that not 
every linux distribution ships the speakup module by default.
Maybe ubuntu is one of that distributions. i just found an old blog 
entry of storm that let me think that speakup is not shipped with the 
ubuntu kernel (information without warranty, since i cannot look at.)
https://stormdragon.tk/installing-speakup-in-ubuntu/
sadly i m not using ubuntu so i cannot give any assistance in "how to 
install it without need to compile your own kernel" then. maybe some 
ubuntu user is here that can help you more experienced. maybe there is a 
PPA or something that provides speakup.

maybe you wanna try vinux (based on ubuntu) or sonar (based on manjaro/ 
antergos/ arch). those distros are made for blind and visual impaired 
people and have that stuff preinstalled for sure.

cheers chrys

Am 01.08.2017 um 00:10 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> I got the same error: could not insert 'speakup': key not available.
> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.
>
> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> speakup is an kernel module.
>> installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel
>> modules i think.
>> you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd.
>> you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel
>> "sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft"
>> after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use
>> espeak as speech synth for speakup.
>> by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to
>> find that very useful information.
>> if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should
>> prefer that way instead of using a tarball.
>>
>> if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be
>> able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace
>> screenreader without need of kernel module stuff.
>>
>> cheers chrys
>>
>> Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
>>> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
>>> directory".
>>> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
>>> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
>>> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
>>>
>>> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
>>>
>>> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
>>>> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from
>>>> the
>>>> graphical terminal with sudo.
>>>> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
>>>> speech on the login prompt.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Zahari
>>>>
>>>>     Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>>>>
>>>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>>>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>>>>> use.
>>>>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>>>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>>>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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did you do modprobe speakup-soft.synth yet?  That should not have 
returned an error if espeakup was installed with all dependencies.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:29:35
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
> 
> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
> directory".
> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
>
> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
>
> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
>> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the
>> graphical terminal with sudo.
>> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
>> speech on the login prompt.
>>
>> --
>> Best wishes,
>> Zahari
>>
>>   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
>>
>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>>> use.
>>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
You should just get back to a prompt.
Then from your console, run espeakup
If it works, you can automate all of this.
Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of 
Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio.
HTH, Willem


On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> use.
> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
>

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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

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Hi,
What computer do you use? Searching for the error on the Internet brings plenty of search results about problems with loading kernel modules in recent kernels on computers with UEFI with Secure Boot enabled.
On one hand, that's strange, because speakup is included in the kernel and I pritty much doubt that you were able to compile and install any external code, and the build-in one should be signed already.
Still, if you have UEFI instead of BIOS and  Secure Boot enabled - you can try to disable it and see what happens.
The bad news is that you'll need a sighted help for this.
Look at this link:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/762254/why-do-i-get-required-key-not-available-when-install-3rd-party-kernel-modules

If you have problems entering UEFI and disabling Secure Boot - search for instructions for your PC/laptop/motherboard model.
At the above page, it's stated that you can enter UEFI from GRUB as well, but I haven't tried it so I can't confirm.

If somehow you have managed to change your build-in speakup, you may try reinstalling the kernel, and speakup along with that:
sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)


-- 
Best wishes,
Zahari

  Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 04:20:45PM -0500

> > sudo modprobe speakup_soft
> 
> I got
> Modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_soft': Required key not available
> 
> 
> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably
> > already available, so you don't need to install it separately.
> > Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's
> > included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded
> > something very old.
> > If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it)
> > it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with:
> > sudo modprobe speakup_soft
> > To have this done automatically on startup, do:
> > sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf
> >
> > Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher.
> > Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library.
> > If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to
> > use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use
> > speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up.
> > Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example.
> >
> > So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and
> > do:
> > sudo espeakup
> >
> > If it says ""command not found", find where it is with:
> > which espeakup
> > and include the full path, e. g.:
> > sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup
> >
> > --
> > Best wishes,
> > Zahari
> >
> >   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500
> >
> >> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup.
> >> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or
> >> directory".
> >> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found".
> >> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running
> >> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand.
> >>
> >> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup?
> >>
> >> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer?
> >> > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from
> >> > the
> >> > graphical terminal with sudo.
> >> > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have
> >> > speech on the login prompt.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> > Zahari
> >> >
> >> >   Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500
> >> >
> >> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> >> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> >> >> use.
> >> >> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> >> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> >> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for
certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The
sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's
the one who unintentionally deleted Windows...

Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil?
sudo mokutil --disable-validation
It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't
know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt.

On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
> At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
> then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
> You should just get back to a prompt.
> Then from your console, run espeakup
> If it works, you can automate all of this.
> Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of
> Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio.
> HTH, Willem
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>> use.
>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>>
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Howdy,

If speakup is making too much  trouble you can try yasr or fenrir what you can start without need to change  something  at the bios or kernel. Do you have GUI access via orca to launch/install stuff?

Yasr:
http://yasr.sourceforge.net/

Fenrir
https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader

Brltty (good for braille )
http://www.brltty.com/

Just to have some alternatives.
Cheers Chrys 

Am Dienstag 1. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for
> certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The
> sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's
> the one who unintentionally deleted Windows...
> 
> Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil?
> sudo mokutil --disable-validation
> It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't
> know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt.
> 
> On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
> > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
> > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
> > You should just get back to a prompt.
> > Then from your console, run espeakup
> > If it works, you can automate all of this.
> > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of
> > Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio.
> > HTH, Willem
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> >> use.
> >> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/
may be useable though it's more than a screen reader.
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, 
Linux for blind 
general discussion wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 16:43:21
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
> 
> Howdy,
>
> If speakup is making too much  trouble you can try yasr or fenrir what you can start without need to change  something  at the bios or kernel. Do you have GUI access via orca to launch/install stuff?
>
> Yasr:
> http://yasr.sourceforge.net/
>
> Fenrir
> https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader
>
> Brltty (good for braille )
> http://www.brltty.com/
>
> Just to have some alternatives.
> Cheers Chrys
>
> Am Dienstag 1. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for
>> certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The
>> sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's
>> the one who unintentionally deleted Windows...
>>
>> Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil?
>> sudo mokutil --disable-validation
>> It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't
>> know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt.
>>
>> On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
>>> At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
>>> then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
>>> You should just get back to a prompt.
>>> Then from your console, run espeakup
>>> If it works, you can automate all of this.
>>> Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of
>>> Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio.
>>> HTH, Willem
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
>>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
>>>> use.
>>>> Orca's terminal support sucks.
>>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
>>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hi,
You still get the same error after you did what - reinstalling the kernel?
To check the state of Secure Boot, try:
sudo mokutil --sb-state

I don't have UEFI here, so I don't know if it'll ask you for a password just for checking the state, but I guess not.

P. S. Although mokutil doesn't have a --help option, it has a manual page:
man mokutil


-- 
Best wishes,
Zahari

  Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:57:36PM -0500

> I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for
> certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The
> sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's
> the one who unintentionally deleted Windows...
> 
> Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil?
> sudo mokutil --disable-validation
> It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't
> know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt.
> 
> On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
> > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
> > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
> > You should just get back to a prompt.
> > Then from your console, run espeakup
> > If it works, you can automate all of this.
> > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of
> > Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio.
> > HTH, Willem
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> >> use.
> >> Orca's terminal support sucks.
> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

If you're still debugging, you might want to try isolating where y our
problem is. First step, imo, is to ascertain that espeak is installed
and working as expected.

>From a terminal window/console type:

espeak hello

If you heard it say the word "Hello," you're ready for the next step. I
recommend you check whether espeakup is running. This is the part of the
connection between speakup and espeak. Try the command:

pidof espeakup

This should return a number which is the process ID of the currently
running espeakup. If you do not get that, your espeakup is either not
installed or not running.

Lastly, check whether speakup and the speakup_soft modules are loaded.
Try typing:

lsmod |grep speakup


This should return two lines of output, one with speakup_soft and the
other with speakup itself.

hth

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel.
> At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su
> then modprobe speakup_soft start=1
> You should just get back to a prompt.
> Then from your console, run espeakup
> If it works, you can automate all of this.
> Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of Ubuntu,
> you need to add the user to group audio.
> HTH, Willem
> 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
> > I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal
> > applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently
> > use.
> > Orca's terminal support sucks.
> > I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal.
> > Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > 
> > 
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