can someone help me install mess or mame?

can someone help me install mess or mame?

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I can't seem to get either package to install on my debian system.  Anyone know how?  I want to try to run the apple 2 ee imulator.
Thanks.



Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Well Mark, when I install both in Ubunto 14.04, seems to work
The following extra packages will be installed:
   libportmidi0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 mess-data
Suggested packages:
   gnome-video-arcade mame-extra mame-tools mess-desktop-entries
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   libportmidi0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 mame mess mess-data
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 28.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 167 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Anyway, seemed to go well
Chime

Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Well, that's ubuntu, not debian as i stated in my original message.  They're slightly different.  As far as I can tell, mame or mess are not available
in the debian repos, unless they're under a different name.
Remember, I'm talking Debian, so ubuntu won't help here, at least not in this case.
Thanks for trying, though.

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Well Mark, when I install both in Ubunto 14.04, seems to work
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   libportmidi0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 mess-data
> Suggested packages:
>   gnome-video-arcade mame-extra mame-tools mess-desktop-entries
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libportmidi0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 mame mess mess-data
> 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 28.2 MB of archives.
> After this operation, 167 MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Anyway, seemed to go well
> Chime
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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OK Mark, hopefully this will work better for you. I went to packages.debian.org 
and selected testing, selected all packages, around 1923 screens. I searched 
with lynx for messer, not found, but mame had several items, try
https://packages.debian.org/testing/mame
I would suppose you will manually download a package from there, then run "dpkg 
-i" to install. Good luck
Chime

Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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I was hoping to use apt-get, but I'll give that a try.
Thanks for looking for me.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> OK Mark, hopefully this will work better for you. I went to
> packages.debian.org and selected testing, selected all packages, around 1923
> screens. I searched with lynx for messer, not found, but mame had several
> items, try
> https://packages.debian.org/testing/mame
> I would suppose you will manually download a package from there, then run
> "dpkg -i" to install. Good luck
> Chime
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Well, actually Mark, you could try this as root
apt-get install mame?
that might bring in all related packages. Also aptitude will sometimes list 
related items but you would need to paste them in an install.
Chime

Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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No, no, and more no.  I know how to install packages using sudo.  Lemme show you the output.
markp@southernprince:~$ sudo apt-get install mame
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package mame
markp@southernprince:~$
Now using aptitude.
markp@southernprince:~$ sudo aptitude install mame
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mame"
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mame"
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

What an annoyance.  You'd figure it'd be in the repos.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Well, actually Mark, you could try this as root
> apt-get install mame?
> that might bring in all related packages. Also aptitude will sometimes list
> related items but you would need to paste them in an install.
> Chime
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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OK Mark, sorry not trying to anoy you, but please try mame with a question-mark. 
Best of success
Chime

will pico or nano fix this?

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Hi All,
We have both editors here at shellworld.  Here is the situation.
using pdftotext I converted a large file.  the resulting text though has 
very very  short lines with hrt, return keys at the end of them.
As if the file was intended to be read in a very small space.
I repaired a file like this once, but cannot remember how.
Any tips?
Thanks,
Karen

Re: will pico or nano fix this?

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Tim here.  You could try running it through the "fmt" utility to
reformat paragraphs, assuming each paragraph has a blank line between
it.  To reformat it to 80-columns wide, you could do

 $ fmt -80 < short_lines.txt > nice_and_wide.txt

My version here has a maximum allowed width of 2500 apparently, in
case you want to try and make them as long as possible.

If that doesn't do what you want, you'd have to provide a sample
excerpt of the file (or redacted text in a similar format, especially
when it comes to line-breaks and paragraph breaks) to test against.
But hopefully that above invocation solves it for you

-tim

On July  7, 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi All,
> We have both editors here at shellworld.  Here is the situation.
> using pdftotext I converted a large file.  the resulting text
> though has very very  short lines with hrt, return keys at the end
> of them. As if the file was intended to be read in a very small
> space. I repaired a file like this once, but cannot remember how.
> Any tips?

Re: will pico or nano fix this?

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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
<blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> We have both editors here at shellworld.  Here is the situation.
> using pdftotext I converted a large file.  the resulting text though has
> very very  short lines with hrt, return keys at the end of them.
> As if the file was intended to be read in a very small space.
> I repaired a file like this once, but cannot remember how.
> Any tips?

I don't know about pico and nano, but many plain text editors have a
feature that cleans up such messes. Usually, the feature is  called
"Join Lines" and has a Ctrl+J keyboard shortcut. Kate is one such
editor. For others, search Google with the following query:

     "text editor" "join lines"

If you happen to use the NoteCase Pro outliner, I've written a script
for it (in Lua and using the NC Pro API)  that performs this task and
have deeded the script to the public domain. I'd be happy to share.

Best regards,

Paul

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Re: will pico or nano fix this?

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Hi Tim,
ding ding ding!!
that  did the job thanks.  I did not  need the file to tap dance,  just read 
without pausing in strange ways.
Will remember fmt in future to be sure.
Thanks again,
Kare


On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tim here.  You could try running it through the "fmt" utility to
> reformat paragraphs, assuming each paragraph has a blank line between
> it.  To reformat it to 80-columns wide, you could do
>
> $ fmt -80 < short_lines.txt > nice_and_wide.txt
>
> My version here has a maximum allowed width of 2500 apparently, in
> case you want to try and make them as long as possible.
>
> If that doesn't do what you want, you'd have to provide a sample
> excerpt of the file (or redacted text in a similar format, especially
> when it comes to line-breaks and paragraph breaks) to test against.
> But hopefully that above invocation solves it for you
>
> -tim
>
> On July  7, 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> We have both editors here at shellworld.  Here is the situation.
>> using pdftotext I converted a large file.  the resulting text
>> though has very very  short lines with hrt, return keys at the end
>> of them. As if the file was intended to be read in a very small
>> space. I repaired a file like this once, but cannot remember how.
>> Any tips?
>
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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I've only the main Debian repository in my sources.list, and Aptitude
is telling me mame, its dependencies, and most of its recommends are
available. Its also telling me that mess is just a transitional dummy
package that depends on mame. Granted, I'm running i386, so it might
be a case of their being no 64-bit packages.

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Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle.

Re: will pico or nano fix this?

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see if d2u or dos2unix or fromdos or flip are available they all have 
the same function and will remove those hard returns if you tell those 
utilities to bring the file into unix format.
Next, see if fmt or newfmt are available these will reformat lines for 
you to a default width of 80 I think and if you don't like 80 you 
specify your own width on the command line.

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 19:49:30
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: will pico or nano fix this?
> 
> Hi All,
> We have both editors here at shellworld.  Here is the situation.
> using pdftotext I converted a large file.  the resulting text though has very 
> very  short lines with hrt, return keys at the end of them.
> As if the file was intended to be read in a very small space.
> I repaired a file like this once, but cannot remember how.
> Any tips?
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Hi Mark!

On my x86-64 (64 bits) debian unstable/sid VM, "apt install mame" and "apt
install mess" both worked perfectly well. Can you tell us which debian version
you are using and try running "apt update"?

Regards,

	Shlomi


On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 16:48:39 -0500 (CDT)
Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:

> I can't seem to get either package to install on my debian system.  Anyone
> know how?  I want to try to run the apple 2 ee imulator. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Peveto
> Registered Linux user number 600552
> Everything happens after coffee!
> 
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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You weren't annoyng me.  The difficulty in getting the thing installed in the first place was/is.  I"m trying your suggestion now.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> OK Mark, sorry not trying to anoy you, but please try mame with a
> question-mark. Best of success
> Chime
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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I'm running debian's jessie version, 64 bit, so that could definitely be the case, which stinks.  I can't run the i386 version, because I'd then lose
the use of my hardware synths.


Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Everything happens after coffee!

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> I've only the main Debian repository in my sources.list, and Aptitude
> is telling me mame, its dependencies, and most of its recommends are
> available. Its also telling me that mess is just a transitional dummy
> package that depends on mame. Granted, I'm running i386, so it might
> be a case of their being no 64-bit packages.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffery Wright
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
> Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle.
>
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Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Well Mark, I think you can still install individual 32bit packages, which won't 
ruin your setup.
Chime

Re: can someone help me install mess or mame?

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Not sure how much it will help(from other respondants, it sounds like
both i386 and amd64 have Mame packages, making me think there might be
an issue with your sources.list or something else in your apt
configuration), but here's a how-to on multiarch in Debian:
https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO

While experience tells me a 32-bit x86 Debian has no clue how to run
64-bit binaries, I believe there shouldn't be any issues running
32-bit applications under a 64-bit system.

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle.