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I'd like to offer an addition for music recording and editing: Nama. https://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Audio-Nama/script/nama FYI, Nama uses Ecasound as the audio processing backend, and takes care of lots of details that makes it much easier to work like a conventional multitrack recorder or DAW. It is a perl module, and installs from CPAN. With friendly greetings, Joel On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 06:18:47PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Tim here > > Mark Peveto wrote > > Over the last couple days or so, I've considered becoming a totally > > command line linux user. > > I'm mostly there. Web browsing is the big hurdle for much of my > day-to-day use. Lynx/links/elinks work for many things, but some > sites just need a fully modern-standards-supporting browser. > > > How would I print to my printer for example, > > It depends on what you want to print, but it usually involves piping > things to the "lp" ("line printer") program. It can be configured to > use CUPS on the back end (and may already be configured out of the > box for you). > > Getting fancier output would involve rendering some sort of markup. > There are tools to render HTML, LaTeX, PDFs, and even Word/LibreOffice > docs from the command-line to the printer. > > I don't know what you want to print, but I suspect it can be done in > most cases. > > > play an entire album from my music collection. > > It depends on your tastes, but there are literally dozens of music > players. Some, such as mpg123/mpg312/aplay/ogg123 allow you to > specify just the files you want on the command line and it will play > them. Others, like mplayer are similar but give you a little more > control over playback. > > There's also mpd/mpc which is the Music Player Daemon/Client that > runs in the background and doesn't really have a GUI. The mpd > program runs in the background and the mpc program acts like a > remote-control, letting you create/edit playlists, control playback, > etc. I like the remote-control aspect as I can map them to > particular keys on my keyboard or aliases in the shell and have quick > access to common commands with my media-keys. > > Personally, I use "cmus" which has a text-mode GUI but also has a > remote-control interface like mpd/mpc. I start up tmux and have a > pane for my alsamixer and cmus which lets me flip between them pretty > readily. It allows me to make play-lists, search my collection, > shuffle, etc, much like you'd be familiar with in a graphical player. > > > > How, also, would I create documents in something beyond text > > format? > > usually it's done with a markup that suits your tastes. I personally > have been writing HTML by hand since college in the mid 90s so that's > what I reach for. But other people like TeX/LaTeX (it does produce > some beautiful output and also has external library support for things > like music markup letting you write scores) while other people like > some of the more light-weight markup languages like Markdown or RST > or the like. > > I'd kick the tires on a few and see what feels natural to you. > Fortunately, there's a tool called "pandoc" that lets you convert > between a large number of input/output formats so you can write in > Markdown and convert to PDF, or write in HTML and convert to MS-Word > format, or write in LaTeX and convert to ePub with minimal loss. And > it outputs any of them in plain-text (though you may lose some > information in the process since plain-text doesn't support many > features as you've acknowledged) > > > How does one ditch the guy, and still enjoy all linux has to offer > > in the console? > > One program at a time (grins). So much like each of the items above, > it's a matter of asking "I currently do XYZ in the GUI but would like > to do XYZ in the console" for whatever XYZ is your next adventure. > > I maintain a page listing a number of common command-line tools: > > http://tim.thechases.com/posts/cli/software-for-a-command-line-world/ > > that can point you in the direction of various applications to try > out. Some might drive you crazy while others might fit your brain > just right. They should all be free and are likely in most software > repos, so it doesn't cost you anything except a little time to try > each one out. > > > I'm willing to learn how to do this, but who ever decides to help > > me is gonna hafta be patient. > > The folks on this list are a pretty friendly & patient bunch, so > we'll be glad to help where we can. > > -tim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Joel Roth