From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAJKWAUF005276 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:32:10 -0500 Received: from mx3.redhat.com (mx3.redhat.com [172.16.48.32]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAJKWAcE021206 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:32:10 -0500 Received: from smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.95.71]) by mx3.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id lAJKW4Df015984 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:32:04 -0500 Received: (qmail 45182 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2007 20:31:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=lBQzLKWCQzrO6IhpJHnlhI3SWJtzZIWmUi/FzrL/v2D8VzA9eU31X8us52Ah0EikxiM9Gpn9IOA5ccF49kvnFU8acttTS/9CWkJ5Rmbo/kqqfEoj90PtNH7OGikUk3i89J4fQVjCufohLHY864mebXnJ0eEurN1hTGgAm+0rzGg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO gold.apptechsys.com) (kd7cyu@74.211.160.2 with login) by smtp108.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 20:31:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: NodG0ekVM1kd9qV1J.W8OuYm6iEaHxHaKzNUWoUp9rTYc.zMJGmZB._089KxTF1ohk1h07NKBjel3T_bSGj0NHoJv6QqG5JdyehOPpAq7pY56qG3XA-- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:31:48 -0800 From: Tom Masterson To: Linux for blind general discussion Message-ID: <20071119203148.GA15289@gold.apptechsys.com> References: <474015C6.8070102@gmail.com> <20071118181649.P26777@AegisInfoSys.com> <20071119165211.GL22661@rednote.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071119165211.GL22661@rednote.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 1.358 * X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.48.32 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: lynx X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: junk Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:32:11 -0000 The only other caveat with lynx is that like most text browsers that I am aware of it doen's handle javascript which means some pages will be unusable in part or full depending on the amount of javascript used. I don't find the file numbering option very useful but that is personal preference. Tom On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:52:11AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Geoff's advice is absolutely on the mark. Lynx with Speakup continues to > be a powerful, and very accessible browser. However, you do need to > learn Speakup's screen review commands to use lynx effectively, because > it doesn't work the way Windows screen readers made Internet Explorer > work. > > My advice is to start lynx with two key command line options--then make > these your defaults in the Options menu (accessed with by o) so you > don't have to issue this long command every time: > > lynx -show_cursor -number_fields > > This will cause the system cursor to track your focus on hyperlinks, > which is where you go with up and down arrow, or with TAB and Alt+TAB. > Yes, that's correct, Alt+TAB, and not Shift+TAB, which has always been > the Unix default. > > The Lynx for users who are blind document for which you were asking a URI is at: > > http://leb.net/blinux/blynx/ > > You can also access it on the help screen of Lynx, accessible by ?, but > this wouldn't help you if you don't yet understand how to read documents > in lynx. > > Janina > > > Geoff Shang writes: > > Hi, > > > > To read the output of Lynx or pretty much any other application in the > > console, you're going to need to use Speakup's screen review keys. > > > > By default, you can use the numpad 7 and 9 keys to read the previous and > > next line respectively, and 8 to read the current line. The same logic > > applies to 4 5 and 6 (words) and 1 2 and 3 (characters). You can use > > numpad-insert plus numpad 9 (page up) to go to the top of the screen, and > > numpad-insert plus numpad-2 (down arrow) to read from the current curso > > position to the bottom of the screen. > > > > To check out what all the speakup keys do, press keypad-insert plus F1 when > > in Speakup and either up and down arrow through the list or try pressing > > keys to see what they do. Press Space to leave keyboard help. > > > > In lynx, you can use page-down or Space to go to the next screen, and > > page-up or b to go back a page. As posted already, insert and delete move > > the screen display up and down one line (something I previously didn't > > know). Home and End go to the first and last screen of a document, as do > > control-A and control-E respectively. Up and Down arrows move you to the > > next and previous page element (or next and previous line in a multi-line > > edit field), and right arrow follows a link and left goes back unless > > you're in any kind of edit field. > > > > To get a full and hopefully up to date list of keystrokes in lynx, press > > "k" when in lynx. > > > > Note that unless you use a blinux lynx config (wich I did see somewhere but > > don't know where), lynx will not automatically make the cursor track where > > you are in a document. You need to turn on "show cursor" in the options > > screen which is not exactly straight-forward, or by setting > > > > show_cursor=on > > > > in your .lynxrc config file. > > > > Hope this helps you get started. > > > > Geoff. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada > Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com > > Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org > Linux Foundation http://a11y.org > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list