From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAJK8sHA001871 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:08:54 -0500 Received: from mx3.redhat.com (mx3.redhat.com [172.16.48.32]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAJK8sA1010409 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:08:54 -0500 Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [74.53.93.34]) by mx3.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAJK8r5F001528 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:08:53 -0500 Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAJK8C9P023201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:08:52 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lAJGqBbK007395 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:52:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:52:11 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: Linux for blind general discussion Message-ID: <20071119165211.GL22661@rednote.net> References: <474015C6.8070102@gmail.com> <20071118181649.P26777@AegisInfoSys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7spk Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4846/Mon Nov 19 18:26:19 2007 on opera.rednote.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -1.06 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.48.32 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: lynx X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: junk Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:08:55 -0000 Geoff's advice is absolutely on the mark. Lynx with Speakup continues to be a powerful, and very accessible browser. However, you do need to learn Speakup's screen review commands to use lynx effectively, because it doesn't work the way Windows screen readers made Internet Explorer work. My advice is to start lynx with two key command line options--then make these your defaults in the Options menu (accessed with by o) so you don't have to issue this long command every time: lynx -show_cursor -number_fields This will cause the system cursor to track your focus on hyperlinks, which is where you go with up and down arrow, or with TAB and Alt+TAB. Yes, that's correct, Alt+TAB, and not Shift+TAB, which has always been the Unix default. The Lynx for users who are blind document for which you were asking a URI is at: http://leb.net/blinux/blynx/ You can also access it on the help screen of Lynx, accessible by ?, but this wouldn't help you if you don't yet understand how to read documents in lynx. Janina Geoff Shang writes: > Hi, > > To read the output of Lynx or pretty much any other application in the > console, you're going to need to use Speakup's screen review keys. > > By default, you can use the numpad 7 and 9 keys to read the previous and > next line respectively, and 8 to read the current line. The same logic > applies to 4 5 and 6 (words) and 1 2 and 3 (characters). You can use > numpad-insert plus numpad 9 (page up) to go to the top of the screen, and > numpad-insert plus numpad-2 (down arrow) to read from the current curso > position to the bottom of the screen. > > To check out what all the speakup keys do, press keypad-insert plus F1 when > in Speakup and either up and down arrow through the list or try pressing > keys to see what they do. Press Space to leave keyboard help. > > In lynx, you can use page-down or Space to go to the next screen, and > page-up or b to go back a page. As posted already, insert and delete move > the screen display up and down one line (something I previously didn't > know). Home and End go to the first and last screen of a document, as do > control-A and control-E respectively. Up and Down arrows move you to the > next and previous page element (or next and previous line in a multi-line > edit field), and right arrow follows a link and left goes back unless > you're in any kind of edit field. > > To get a full and hopefully up to date list of keystrokes in lynx, press > "k" when in lynx. > > Note that unless you use a blinux lynx config (wich I did see somewhere but > don't know where), lynx will not automatically make the cursor track where > you are in a document. You need to turn on "show cursor" in the options > screen which is not exactly straight-forward, or by setting > > show_cursor=on > > in your .lynxrc config file. > > Hope this helps you get started. > > Geoff. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org