From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FA93FA5B for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [12.107.208.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0LL4vW02183 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:04:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.8.7) id g0LL4vw06902 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:04:57 -0500 Received: from ark.linwin.com (ark.linwin.com [198.144.195.43]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.8.7) with ESMTP id g0LL4uC06891 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:04:56 -0500 Received: from raffi by ark.linwin.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16SlcY-0004UM-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:04:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:04:50 -0800 From: Rafael To: Hans Zoebelein Cc: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? Message-ID: <20020121130450.C16902@ark.linwin.com> References: <20020120171718.A15510@ark.linwin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from hzo@gmx.de on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:53:10PM +0100 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.redhat.com id g0LL4vw06902 Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:53:10PM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote: > Rafael, >=20 > from the Blinux at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html#toc1.2 >=20 > > 1.2 Q: Which postings are on topic for blinux-list? > > > > A: All themes which are related to 'eyes free' access to the Linux > > operating system are on topic for blinux-list. Also themes like > > installing, configuring maintaining and improving blind related softw= are > > or hardware. So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux > > user who is blind.=20 > > > > > > 1.3 Q: Which postings are off topic for blinux-list? > > > > A: Blinux-list is not intended as a place to get answers for general > > Linux questions; there are plenty of resources available on the net f= or > > this. Typical off topic postings are general Linux questions, virus > > warnings, advertisements (spammers will be banned). If appropriate, u= se > > personal email when you want to communicate with a list member. This = FAQ > > provides pointers to useful places where to search for information.=20 >=20 >=20 > A Redhat merger may affect users of Redhat and therefore also users of=20 > Redhat who are blind. Discussing the future behaviour of AOL/Time Warne= r/Redhat > when it comes to blind support for Linux would be on topic here. > But who would know anything substantial about that?=20 >=20 > So any 'discussion' about a potential merger wouldn't be anything than=20 > idle talk. I have widened the frame of topics at blinux-list to the > limits, as long as there is a glimmer of relationship to blind support > under Linux. But there is a 'maximum pain' limit. >=20 That's what I thought. This mailing list is on one of their servers as fa= r as I can tell so it might get affected by the merger. Also, the discussio= n=20 comes up about other distributions which is "out of redhat domain". Perhaps there should be a complete domain dedicated to everything for linux users with limited or no vision. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have more than one mailing list to separate technical issues from whateve= r else is of interest to the users. I checked blinux.org and found that it'= s already in use so something else would be needed in case people wanted=20 independence from a certain corporate entity. >=20 > PS: Redhat is a linux distributor like many others. They don't own Linu= x. > So if you feel that other distributors offer better blind support (SuSE > is really engaged in making Linux accessible for users who are blind), > vote with your feet and install that Linux distro, that meets your need= s best. >=20 > PPS: Redhat is so kind to host blinux-list on their servers. Besides > this, there is no other relation between Redhat and blinux-list. >=20 Understood but a more independance wouldn't hurt. People should have a=20 choice IMO. >=20 > Enjoy! > --Hans >=20 >=20 > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Rafael wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:05:32AM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote: > > > Sorry to say that discuss=EDons about a merger of Redhat and AOL ar= e off > > > topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of > > > blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html > >=20 > > Just checked and I see no problem with users discussing RedHat or=20 > > whatever Linux related business. After all, some blind users do use R= edhat=20 > > distribution and might get affected by what happens to Redhat. > >=20 > > >From blinux-faq.html > >=20 > > "So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux user who is= blind." > >=20 > > Sorry, I do not agree with you on this issue. There were other less=20 > > appropriate issues discussed on the list and I don't remember any=20 > > complains. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Best Regards > > > --Hans > > > (maintainer blinux-list) >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Rafael