* Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd)
@ John J. Boyer
` Rafael
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: John J. Boyer @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Hello,
I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying Redhat.
Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and users.
The latest example is something very close to many of us - the merger of
Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this company. But
at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply distribute it
ourselves.
John
--
Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:41:07 -0500
From: Amy Ruell <aruell@mediaone.net>
To: (Recipient list suppressed) @mail.voyagerhosting.net
Subject: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
>From: David Poehlman poehlman1@home.com
>AOL in Negotiations to Acquire Red Hat
>Deal for Distributor of Linux Operating System Could Lead to a New
>Challenge
>of Microsoft
>
> By Alec Klein
>Washington Post Staff Writer
>Saturday, January 19, 2002; Page E01
>
>AOL Time Warner Inc. is in talks to buy Red Hat Inc., a prominent
>distributor of a computer operating system, an acquisition that would
>position the media giant to challenge archrival Microsoft Corp.,
>according
>to sources familiar with the matter.
>
>Red Hat, a publicly traded firm based in Durham, N.C., sells products
>and
>services based on the Linux operating system, the freely available
>software
>developed collaboratively by volunteers. Linux is designed for a wide
>variety of gear, running corporate computer servers and consumer
>devices
>such as personal computers, cell phones and video games.
>
>The Red Hat negotiations -- which are still fluid -- are the latest
>indication that AOL Time Warner, the world's largest media company, is
>looking for alternatives to software made by Microsoft, whose Windows
>operating system runs 90 percent of the world's PCs. The longtime
>competitors have fought over an array of rival consumer technologies
>lately,
>including online subscription services, instant-messaging systems and
>Web-based video and audio players.
>
>Officials of AOL, Red Hat and Microsoft declined to comment.
>
>To counter Microsoft's desktop hegemony, New York-based AOL Time Warner
>could use the deal to couple its America Online software, the market
>leader
>with more than 33 million Internet subscribers, with Red Hat's
>operating-system technology, sources said.
>
>The AOL online software, which consumers can install free from the Web
>or a
>compact disk, is now designed to run on Microsoft's Windows operating
>system. But the AOL software could be configured to override Windows
>and
>launch a version of Red Hat's Linux operating system, sources said.
>
>With such a move, AOL Time Warner could potentially make significant
>inroads
>into Microsoft's bread-and-butter business. An even greater challenge
>to
>Microsoft would be for AOL Time Warner to develop a rival operating
>system
>that works exclusively with the media giant's own Internet service
>provider,
>its Web browser or proprietary content.
>
>This is not the first time AOL Time Warner has explored alternatives to
>Windows. There were rumblings last year, during a flash point in the
>rivalry
>between the two tech titans, when AOL Time Warner was scouting for an
>acquisition or partnership with a firm that could provide a competing
>operating system.
>
>AOL Time Warner has already tried to counteract Microsoft on other
>fronts,
>including rebuilding its Netscape Web browser business to better
>compete
>against Microsoft's dominant Internet Explorer. Netscape technology has
>been
>incorporated into a Gateway Inc. tabletop Internet terminal and Sony
>Corp.'s
>PlayStation 2 video-game console. Linux also runs the Sony product.
>
>It was unclear yesterday how much money Red Hat could fetch. With a
>market
>capitalization of about $1.45 billion and about 600 employees
>worldwide,
>Red
>Hat reported $68.2 million in revenue in the nine months ended Nov. 30,
>down
>10 percent over the same period a year earlier.
>
>The software company reported a profit of $1.8 million, or a penny per
>share, in the nine months, compared with a loss of $10 million, or six
>cents
>a share, in the year-ago period.
>
>Red Hat makes its money by packaging Linux for commercial and consumer
>use
>and by providing services and support to customers who use it. The
>operating
>system itself is freely available on the Internet -- thanks to an
>initiative
>by a programmer named Linus Torvalds who organized volunteers to write
>the
>original source code. Unlike Microsoft, which does not fully divulge
>its
>code, the Linux code is available to anyone who agrees to make
>modifications
>publicly available.
>
>Linux has yet to be adopted widely by consumers, largely because it
>requires
>some technical proficiency to install. But it is popular with the tech
>crowd
>and, according to industry estimates, runs about 30 percent of all
>computers
> servers -- the powerful computers that function as hubs on a network.
>
>Red Hat has claimed such big clients as Amazon.com Inc. and
>International
>Business Machines Corp., providing software and support for IBM servers
>that
>use the Linux operating system.
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* Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd)
Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd) John J. Boyer
@ ` Rafael
` Ron Marriage
` OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? Hans Zoebelein
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rafael @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 09:55:39AM -0600, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying Redhat.
> Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and users.
> The latest example is something very close to many of us - the merger of
> Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
> people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this company. But
> at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
> redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply distribute it
> ourselves.
> John
>
I wouldn't worry about that possible merger. Others will pick up from
where Redhat might drop it. On the other hand, Linux will get better
positioned in the corporate world which is what many of us want anyway.
As you said, Linux is open source so nobody can hijack or monopolize it
like it happened so many times with other technologies. My expectation is
that other less known distributions will come forward and gain some
popularity if people turn away from AOL. That's good, we need better
distributions than Redhat anyway. It's funny that Linux is the strongest
in the server arena but the distributions like Redhat don't have it well
designed in their configuration scripts. To redhat a server is a server,
no difference between printer or NFS server for example.
By the way, don't tell me that Debian is beter because it's not. It has
better packaging tool but it's environment is not that well thought out.
You have to manualy setup too many things in order to get the desired
server configuration.
Interesting start in new millenium.
--
Rafael
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* Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd)
Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd) John J. Boyer
` Rafael
@ ` Ron Marriage
` OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? Hans Zoebelein
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ron Marriage @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
HI
While a merger between AOL / Time Warner and Redhat might
set off some, I'd think it would be something to look
forward to.
Think about it, linux is already released on the gnu
license, which means that can't change anything without
releasing it the same way.
Many of the programs in a distribution are the same way, so
they will only have the advantage of all of AOL Time
Warner's money to help them along.
Another thing to consider is that AOL Time Warner is
possibly doing this to give them an edge in an alternative
to the MS giant. Their experience with MS in the past has
not always gone well and this might be the very investment
of big dollars into linux that the community has been asking
for.
Changes will probably be made. Distribution system will
probably get better. You'll probably see more linux in
retail stores sitting next to all those barrows of AOL CDs.
Support can improve. Yes we might pay for support beyond
installation, but this might be exactly what big companies
need to help them make the switch to linux as not only a
server OS but a desktop OS.
Think about everyone getting a couple linux CDs in the mail
as often as they get those AOL CDs.
Ron
"John J. Boyer" wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying Redhat.
> Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and users.
> The latest example is something very close to many of us - the merger of
> Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
> people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this company. But
> at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
> redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply distribute it
> ourselves.
> John
>
> --
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:41:07 -0500
> From: Amy Ruell <aruell@mediaone.net>
> To: (Recipient list suppressed) @mail.voyagerhosting.net
> Subject: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
>
> >From: David Poehlman poehlman1@home.com
> >AOL in Negotiations to Acquire Red Hat
> >Deal for Distributor of Linux Operating System Could Lead to a New
> >Challenge
> >of Microsoft
> >
> > By Alec Klein
> >Washington Post Staff Writer
> >Saturday, January 19, 2002; Page E01
> >
> >AOL Time Warner Inc. is in talks to buy Red Hat Inc., a prominent
> >distributor of a computer operating system, an acquisition that would
> >position the media giant to challenge archrival Microsoft Corp.,
> >according
> >to sources familiar with the matter.
> >
> >Red Hat, a publicly traded firm based in Durham, N.C., sells products
> >and
> >services based on the Linux operating system, the freely available
> >software
> >developed collaboratively by volunteers. Linux is designed for a wide
> >variety of gear, running corporate computer servers and consumer
> >devices
> >such as personal computers, cell phones and video games.
> >
> >The Red Hat negotiations -- which are still fluid -- are the latest
> >indication that AOL Time Warner, the world's largest media company, is
> >looking for alternatives to software made by Microsoft, whose Windows
> >operating system runs 90 percent of the world's PCs. The longtime
> >competitors have fought over an array of rival consumer technologies
> >lately,
> >including online subscription services, instant-messaging systems and
> >Web-based video and audio players.
> >
> >Officials of AOL, Red Hat and Microsoft declined to comment.
> >
> >To counter Microsoft's desktop hegemony, New York-based AOL Time Warner
> >could use the deal to couple its America Online software, the market
> >leader
> >with more than 33 million Internet subscribers, with Red Hat's
> >operating-system technology, sources said.
> >
> >The AOL online software, which consumers can install free from the Web
> >or a
> >compact disk, is now designed to run on Microsoft's Windows operating
> >system. But the AOL software could be configured to override Windows
> >and
> >launch a version of Red Hat's Linux operating system, sources said.
> >
> >With such a move, AOL Time Warner could potentially make significant
> >inroads
> >into Microsoft's bread-and-butter business. An even greater challenge
> >to
> >Microsoft would be for AOL Time Warner to develop a rival operating
> >system
> >that works exclusively with the media giant's own Internet service
> >provider,
> >its Web browser or proprietary content.
> >
> >This is not the first time AOL Time Warner has explored alternatives to
> >Windows. There were rumblings last year, during a flash point in the
> >rivalry
> >between the two tech titans, when AOL Time Warner was scouting for an
> >acquisition or partnership with a firm that could provide a competing
> >operating system.
> >
> >AOL Time Warner has already tried to counteract Microsoft on other
> >fronts,
> >including rebuilding its Netscape Web browser business to better
> >compete
> >against Microsoft's dominant Internet Explorer. Netscape technology has
> >been
> >incorporated into a Gateway Inc. tabletop Internet terminal and Sony
> >Corp.'s
> >PlayStation 2 video-game console. Linux also runs the Sony product.
> >
> >It was unclear yesterday how much money Red Hat could fetch. With a
> >market
> >capitalization of about $1.45 billion and about 600 employees
> >worldwide,
> >Red
> >Hat reported $68.2 million in revenue in the nine months ended Nov. 30,
> >down
> >10 percent over the same period a year earlier.
> >
> >The software company reported a profit of $1.8 million, or a penny per
> >share, in the nine months, compared with a loss of $10 million, or six
> >cents
> >a share, in the year-ago period.
> >
> >Red Hat makes its money by packaging Linux for commercial and consumer
> >use
> >and by providing services and support to customers who use it. The
> >operating
> >system itself is freely available on the Internet -- thanks to an
> >initiative
> >by a programmer named Linus Torvalds who organized volunteers to write
> >the
> >original source code. Unlike Microsoft, which does not fully divulge
> >its
> >code, the Linux code is available to anyone who agrees to make
> >modifications
> >publicly available.
> >
> >Linux has yet to be adopted widely by consumers, largely because it
> >requires
> >some technical proficiency to install. But it is popular with the tech
> >crowd
> >and, according to industry estimates, runs about 30 percent of all
> >computers
> > servers -- the powerful computers that function as hubs on a network.
> >
> >Red Hat has claimed such big clients as Amazon.com Inc. and
> >International
> >Business Machines Corp., providing software and support for IBM servers
> >that
> >use the Linux operating system.
>
> Too many messages and not enough time, contact aruell@mediaone.net and
> subscribe to Amy's filters and forwards today!!!
>
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* OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? (fwd) John J. Boyer
` Rafael
` Ron Marriage
@ ` Hans Zoebelein
` Rafael
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Zoebelein @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Sorry to say that discussíons about a merger of Redhat and AOL are off
topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of
blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html
Best Regards
--Hans
(maintainer blinux-list)
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying Redhat.
> Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and users.
> The latest example is something very close to many of us - the merger of
> Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
> people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this company. But
> at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
> redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply distribute it
> ourselves.
> John
>
>
> --
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
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* Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
` OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? Hans Zoebelein
@ ` Rafael
` David Poehlman
` Hans Zoebelein
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rafael @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:05:32AM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote:
> Sorry to say that discussíons about a merger of Redhat and AOL are off
> topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of
> blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html
Just checked and I see no problem with users discussing RedHat or
whatever Linux related business. After all, some blind users do use Redhat
distribution and might get affected by what happens to Redhat.
>From blinux-faq.html
"So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux user who is blind."
Sorry, I do not agree with you on this issue. There were other less
appropriate issues discussed on the list and I don't remember any
complains.
>
> Best Regards
> --Hans
> (maintainer blinux-list)
>
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying Redhat.
> > Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and users.
> > The latest example is something very close to many of us - the merger of
> > Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
> > people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this company. But
> > at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
> > redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply distribute it
> > ourselves.
> > John
> >
> >
> > --
> > Computers to Help People, Inc.
> > http://www.chpi.org
> > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
> >
--
Rafael
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* Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
` Rafael
@ ` David Poehlman
` Hans Zoebelein
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
but he's the modorator.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rafael" <raffi@ark.linwin.com>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL
Time-Warner?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:05:32AM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote:
> Sorry to say that discussíons about a merger of Redhat and AOL are off
> topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of
> blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html
Just checked and I see no problem with users discussing RedHat or
whatever Linux related business. After all, some blind users do use
Redhat
distribution and might get affected by what happens to Redhat.
>From blinux-faq.html
"So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux user who is
blind."
Sorry, I do not agree with you on this issue. There were other less
appropriate issues discussed on the list and I don't remember any
complains.
>
> Best Regards
> --Hans
> (maintainer blinux-list)
>
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I'm a bit concerned that AOL Time Warner is thinking of buying
Redhat.
> > Mergers and acquisitions usually turn out badly for customers and
users.
> > The latest example is something very close to many of us - the
merger of
> > Henter-Joyce and Blazie Engineering to form Freedom Scientific. Many
> > people, including myself, have had bad experiences with this
company. But
> > at least Linux is in the public domain, so if AOL Time Warner ruins
> > redhat, we'll have other companies to turn to or can simply
distribute it
> > ourselves.
> > John
> >
> >
> > --
> > Computers to Help People, Inc.
> > http://www.chpi.org
> > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
> >
--
Rafael
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* Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
` Rafael
` David Poehlman
@ ` Hans Zoebelein
` Rafael
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Zoebelein @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list; +Cc: raffi
Rafael,
from the Blinux at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html#toc1.2
> 1.2 Q: Which postings are on topic for blinux-list?
>
> A: All themes which are related to 'eyes free' access to the Linux
> operating system are on topic for blinux-list. Also themes like
> installing, configuring maintaining and improving blind related software
> or hardware. So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux
> user who is blind.
>
>
> 1.3 Q: Which postings are off topic for blinux-list?
>
> A: Blinux-list is not intended as a place to get answers for general
> Linux questions; there are plenty of resources available on the net for
> this. Typical off topic postings are general Linux questions, virus
> warnings, advertisements (spammers will be banned). If appropriate, use
> personal email when you want to communicate with a list member. This FAQ
> provides pointers to useful places where to search for information.
A Redhat merger may affect users of Redhat and therefore also users of
Redhat who are blind. Discussing the future behaviour of AOL/Time Warner/Redhat
when it comes to blind support for Linux would be on topic here.
But who would know anything substantial about that?
So any 'discussion' about a potential merger wouldn't be anything than
idle talk. I have widened the frame of topics at blinux-list to the
limits, as long as there is a glimmer of relationship to blind support
under Linux. But there is a 'maximum pain' limit.
PS: Redhat is a linux distributor like many others. They don't own Linux.
So if you feel that other distributors offer better blind support (SuSE
is really engaged in making Linux accessible for users who are blind),
vote with your feet and install that Linux distro, that meets your needs best.
PPS: Redhat is so kind to host blinux-list on their servers. Besides
this, there is no other relation between Redhat and blinux-list.
Enjoy!
--Hans
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Rafael wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:05:32AM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote:
> > Sorry to say that discussíons about a merger of Redhat and AOL are off
> > topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of
> > blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html
>
> Just checked and I see no problem with users discussing RedHat or
> whatever Linux related business. After all, some blind users do use Redhat
> distribution and might get affected by what happens to Redhat.
>
> >From blinux-faq.html
>
> "So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux user who is blind."
>
> Sorry, I do not agree with you on this issue. There were other less
> appropriate issues discussed on the list and I don't remember any
> complains.
>
> >
> > Best Regards
> > --Hans
> > (maintainer blinux-list)
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* Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
` Hans Zoebelein
@ ` Rafael
` Hans Zoebelein
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rafael @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Zoebelein; +Cc: blinux-list
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:53:10PM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> from the Blinux at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html#toc1.2
>
> > 1.2 Q: Which postings are on topic for blinux-list?
> >
> > A: All themes which are related to 'eyes free' access to the Linux
> > operating system are on topic for blinux-list. Also themes like
> > installing, configuring maintaining and improving blind related software
> > or hardware. So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux
> > user who is blind.
> >
> >
> > 1.3 Q: Which postings are off topic for blinux-list?
> >
> > A: Blinux-list is not intended as a place to get answers for general
> > Linux questions; there are plenty of resources available on the net for
> > this. Typical off topic postings are general Linux questions, virus
> > warnings, advertisements (spammers will be banned). If appropriate, use
> > personal email when you want to communicate with a list member. This FAQ
> > provides pointers to useful places where to search for information.
>
>
> A Redhat merger may affect users of Redhat and therefore also users of
> Redhat who are blind. Discussing the future behaviour of AOL/Time Warner/Redhat
> when it comes to blind support for Linux would be on topic here.
> But who would know anything substantial about that?
>
> So any 'discussion' about a potential merger wouldn't be anything than
> idle talk. I have widened the frame of topics at blinux-list to the
> limits, as long as there is a glimmer of relationship to blind support
> under Linux. But there is a 'maximum pain' limit.
>
That's what I thought. This mailing list is on one of their servers as far
as I can tell so it might get affected by the merger. Also, the discussion
comes up about other distributions which is "out of redhat domain".
Perhaps there should be a complete domain dedicated to everything for
linux users with limited or no vision. Perhaps it would be a good idea to
have more than one mailing list to separate technical issues from whatever
else is of interest to the users. I checked blinux.org and found that it's
already in use so something else would be needed in case people wanted
independence from a certain corporate entity.
>
> PS: Redhat is a linux distributor like many others. They don't own Linux.
> So if you feel that other distributors offer better blind support (SuSE
> is really engaged in making Linux accessible for users who are blind),
> vote with your feet and install that Linux distro, that meets your needs best.
>
> PPS: Redhat is so kind to host blinux-list on their servers. Besides
> this, there is no other relation between Redhat and blinux-list.
>
Understood but a more independance wouldn't hurt. People should have a
choice IMO.
>
> Enjoy!
> --Hans
>
>
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Rafael wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:05:32AM +0100, Hans Zoebelein wrote:
> > > Sorry to say that discussíons about a merger of Redhat and AOL are off
> > > topic here at blinux-list. Please check out what is the topic of
> > > blinux-list at http://www.leb.net/blinux/blinux-faq.html
> >
> > Just checked and I see no problem with users discussing RedHat or
> > whatever Linux related business. After all, some blind users do use Redhat
> > distribution and might get affected by what happens to Redhat.
> >
> > >From blinux-faq.html
> >
> > "So is news related to software or hardware for the Linux user who is blind."
> >
> > Sorry, I do not agree with you on this issue. There were other less
> > appropriate issues discussed on the list and I don't remember any
> > complains.
> >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > --Hans
> > > (maintainer blinux-list)
>
>
>
--
Rafael
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* Re: OFF TOPIC: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
` Rafael
@ ` Hans Zoebelein
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From: Hans Zoebelein @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael; +Cc: blinux-list
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Rafael wrote:
>
> That's what I thought. This mailing list is on one of their servers as far
> as I can tell so it might get affected by the merger. Also, the discussion
> comes up about other distributions which is "out of redhat domain".
blinux-list might run on any server on the Web. Setting up a mailing list
to another server isn't to too complicated today (search www.google.com
for 'mailman').
Since Redhat is not involved with blinux-list/project other than their
hosting of the list, there is no "redhat domain" involved by us.
>
> Perhaps there should be a complete domain dedicated to everything for
> linux users with limited or no vision. Perhaps it would be a good idea to
> have more than one mailing list to separate technical issues from whatever
> else is of interest to the users. I checked blinux.org and found that it's
> already in use so something else would be needed in case people wanted
> independence from a certain corporate entity.
blinux.org is owned by me (to give credit where credit is due:
the people at leb.net were so kind to register blinux.org for me some time ago).
Enjoy!
--Hans
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