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From: Luke Davis <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:21:56 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011115232102.A54471-100000@server1.shellworld.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20011115222100.00a79af0@mail.doorpi.net>

Subscribe to ipaq@handhelds.org--they can point you to keyboards.  There
are a couple that work, although I have nothing firm on which ones.

Luke


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:

> One problem, handwriting recognition would be useless to me. Does the ipaq
> have an accessible form of input, keyboard, etc?
> At 05:01 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Same price?  An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven,
> >but you don't need the color resolution.  The Elva is what?
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote:
> >
> >> have a read of handhelds.org  it pretty well describes the process for the
> >> ipaq 3600...
> >>
> >> I've seen descriptions for other devices.  it's mostly the same...
> >>
> >> presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux
> loader
> >> you would install...
> >> I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but
> >> certainly possible.
> >>
> >> and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists
> >> which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you.
> >>
> >> Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming
> >> months.
> >> now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the
> >> level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically.
> >>
> >> time shall tell,
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> >> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM
> >> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> >>
> >>
> >> I suppose, how would one even do this?
> >> At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba...
> >> >
> >> >now you see the point?
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> >> >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
> >> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM
> >> >To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it installed
> >> >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be like
> >> >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily
> >> >implemented with linux on a microdrive.
> >> >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll gladly
> >> >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!!
> >> >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill
> >> >>display.
> >> >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata?
> >> >>J
> >> >>
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> >> >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> >> >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM
> >> >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is
> >> >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible.
> >> >>
> >> >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet
> >> >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin>
> >> >>
> >> >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS
> >> >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's
> >> >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no
> >> >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they
> >> >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air.
> >> >>
> >> >> On
> >> >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so if
> >> >>you
> >> >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get
> >> >linux
> >> >>> on a braille note?
> >> >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever
> you
> >> >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of course.
> >> >We
> >> >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux
> installation
> >> >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and kde,
> >> >>but
> >> >>> >I've been wrong before.
> >> >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My laptop
> >> >>isn't
> >> >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in to
> >> >the
> >> >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable
> >> out
> >> >>and
> >> >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise.
> >> >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd want
> >> >to
> >> >>> use
> >> >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It
> >> >>definately
> >> >>> >> has
> >> >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. It does have a
> >> built
> >> >>in
> >> >>> >> >> microphone.
> >> >>> >> >> Tommy
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >Chair, Accessibility SIG
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> >> >>> >> >
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> >> >>> >> >
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> >> >>> >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp
> >> >>> >
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> >> >>> >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
> >> >>> >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
> >> >>> >
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> >> >>				Technology Research and Development
> >> >>				Governmental Relations Group
> >> >>				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >> >>
> >> >>Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >> >>
> >> >>Chair, Accessibility SIG
> >> >>Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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> >> >>
> >> >>Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
> >> >>Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp
> >> >>
> >> >>Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
> >> >>King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
> >> >>http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
> >> >>
> >> >>Learn how to make accessible software at
> >> >>http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
> >> >>
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Ian Blackburn
 ` David Poehlman
   ` Brent Harding
     ` Tommy Craig
       ` David Poehlman
       ` Joel Zimba
       ` Brent Harding
         ` Tommy Craig
           ` Joel Zimba
             ` Brent Harding
       ` Janina Sajka
         ` Tommy Craig
           ` Janina Sajka
             ` philwh
               ` Janina Sajka
             ` Tommy Craig
               ` Janina Sajka
                 ` A. R. Vener
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` A. R. Vener
                       ` David Poehlman
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131727580.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                     ` Brent Harding
                 ` Tommy Craig
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` Tommy Craig
                       ` Janina Sajka
                         ` Tommy Craig
                           ` Brent Harding
                             ` Tommy Craig
                               ` Joel Zimba
                                 ` David Poehlman
                               ` Janina Sajka
                               ` Brent Harding
                                 ` philwh
                                   ` Tommy Craig
                                     ` Bill Gaughan
                                       ` Bill Gaughan
                                       ` Janina Sajka
                                         ` philwh
                                       ` Tommy Craig
                                     ` Joel Zimba
                                       ` Brent Harding
                                   ` Bill Gaughan
                                     ` Henry Yen
                                   ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.40.0111141316310.478-100000@beethoven.wgaughan. net>
                                     ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111140952050.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                 ` Brent Harding
                                   ` Janina Sajka
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111141354210.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                     ` Brent Harding
                                       ` Janina Sajka
                                         ` Joel Zimba
                                           ` Brent Harding
                                             ` Joel Zimba
                                               ` Brent Harding
                                                 ` Joel Zimba
                                                   ` Luke Davis
                                                     ` Joel Zimba
                                                       ` Luke Davis
                                                         ` Janina Sajka
                                                     ` Brent Harding
                                                       ` Luke Davis [this message]
                                                       ` Joel Zimba
                                                         ` Brent Harding
                                                   ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111151129210.1655-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                         ` Brent Harding
                           ` Janina Sajka
                             ` Luke Davis
                               ` Janina Sajka
                                 ` Tommy Craig
                               ` Tommy Craig
                                 ` Luke Davis
                                 ` Janina Sajka
                                   ` Buddy Brannan
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111151829250.1655-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                 ` Brent Harding
                             ` Tommy Craig
                         ` Quitting (was: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out) S. Massy
                           ` David Poehlman
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131738360.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                     ` the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Brent Harding
                       ` philwh
               ` Brent Harding
               ` Luke Davis
                 ` Tommy Craig
                   ` Luke Davis
                     ` Jared
                     ` Janina Sajka
                   ` David Poehlman
                     ` Brent Harding
                 ` Saqib Shaikh
     ` Janina Sajka
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
 Craig Powell
 ` Janina Sajka
 ` Brent Harding
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111152132350.3766-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
   ` Brent Harding
 Brent Harding
 ` Beth Wright
 ` Janina Sajka
   ` Joel Zimba
     ` Brent Harding
       ` Janina Sajka
     ` Janina Sajka
       ` Ari Moisio
         ` Janina Sajka
   ` philwh
   ` Luke Davis
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131229070.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
   ` Brent Harding
     ` David Poehlman

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