RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out

[Luke Davis <ldavis@shellworld.net>]

Already is.  There is A festival cline that seems to work well.


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote:

> oh sorry,
>
> I wasn't clear.  I was referring to performing the re-flashing of a brlnote.
> not the
> happy hacking of an ipaq, which is obviously much cheaper.
>
> Once I get the floating point stuff out of rsynth it will run quite
> elegantly on a small platform, and it (the ipaq) should be a pretty usable
> little device.
>
> glad I can still remember how to write :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Luke Davis
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:01 PM
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>
>
> Same price?  An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven,
> but you don't need the color resolution.  The Elva is what?
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote:
>
> > have a read of handhelds.org  it pretty well describes the process for the
> > ipaq 3600...
> >
> > I've seen descriptions for other devices.  it's mostly the same...
> >
> > presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux
> loader
> > you would install...
> > I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but
> > certainly possible.
> >
> > and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists
> > which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you.
> >
> > Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming
> > months.
> > now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the
> > level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically.
> >
> > time shall tell,
> >
> > J
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> > [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM
> > To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> > Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> >
> >
> > I suppose, how would one even do this?
> > At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba...
> > >
> > >now you see the point?
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> > >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM
> > >To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> > >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> > >
> > >
> > >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it installed
> > >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be like
> > >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily
> > >implemented with linux on a microdrive.
> > >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll
> gladly
> > >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!!
> > >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill
> > >>display.
> > >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata?
> > >>J
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> > >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM
> > >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> > >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is
> > >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible.
> > >>
> > >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet
> > >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin>
> > >>
> > >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS
> > >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's
> > >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no
> > >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they
> > >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air.
> > >>
> > >> On
> > >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so
> if
> > >>you
> > >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get
> > >linux
> > >>> on a braille note?
> > >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever
> you
> > >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of
> course.
> > >We
> > >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux
> installation
> > >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and
> kde,
> > >>but
> > >>> >I've been wrong before.
> > >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My
> laptop
> > >>isn't
> > >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in to
> > >the
> > >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable
> > out
> > >>and
> > >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise.
> > >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd
> want
> > >to
> > >>> use
> > >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP.
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It
> > >>definately
> > >>> >> has
> > >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. It does have a
> > built
> > >>in
> > >>> >> >> microphone.
> > >>> >> >> Tommy
> > >>> >> >>
> > >>> >> >>
> > >>> >> >>
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