From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022C63EA83 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAEIAop24084 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fAEIAop31654 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:50 -0500 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fAEIAow31650 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:50 -0500 Received: from user-11210ph.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.131.49] helo=lpwh1.pwh.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1644Ur-0004US-00 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:10:49 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by lpwh1.pwh.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00657 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:24 -0500 From: philwh@gate.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:10:24 -0500 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: the Papenmeir Message-ID: <20011114131024.B641@lpwh1> References: <3.0.6.32.20011113224437.00a65db0@mail.doorpi.net> <005601c16d09$0ff62f50$2cf60141@cp286066a> <3.0.6.32.20011114114640.00a6fab0@mail.doorpi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20011114114640.00a6fab0@mail.doorpi.net>; from bharding@doorpi.net on Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:46:40AM -0600 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi. the mellennium have both speech and braille, and for the 40 cell model, cost as much or a little more than the elba. and uses a 33mhz processor. phil On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:46:40AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote: > Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not > any more. > I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note > seems to have more. > At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products > >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their > >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a > >different question? > > > >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super > >braille but they are real pricy options. > > Original Message ----- > >From: "Brent Harding" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM > >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir > > > > > >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak > >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of > >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only > >thing I > >knew of besides the braille mate. > >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: > >>good morning list members > >> > >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that > >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the > >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the > >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I > >use > >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find > >it > >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want > >one > >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the > >moove and > >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be > >well > >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book > >reader > >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. > >> > >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia > >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot > >of > >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I > >know > >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for > >one am > >>going to weight > >> > >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device > >> > >> > >>======================================================== > >> Standard disclaimer: > >> Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: > >> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no > >responsibility > >> for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and > >> * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. > >>======================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Blinux-list mailing list > >>Blinux-list@redhat.com > >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list