From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A743F7EE for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADMtQp07354 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:26 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADMtQl07909 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (root@server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADMtQw07903 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (ldavis@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fADMtPH65184 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:55:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ldavis@shellworld.net) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Luke Davis To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out In-Reply-To: <000f01c16c94$c9a9e9c0$0100000a@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20011113175053.S60583-100000@server1.shellworld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tommy We could toss stats for hours, and not get anywhere. I have mine, you have yours', and it really doesn't matter. For the record, in my personal case, I have tried em all. No matter. I am far faster with speech. I suggest that this may apply to a good portion of the rest of the working blind as well. I don't know that it does, however, and I will not posit that it does, nor claim that it is "how it should be". Each individual is different, and there is a 50% chance a particular person will go one way or the other (not considering those that will use both). However, one can not say which way anyone will or should go, and one should not claim to any degree that one method "is more productive than another", because that, as I said, is only 50% true. Luke On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: > Hi Luke, > > I certainly didn't intend to offend anyone either. I do believe that > statistically though I am on safe ground. One statistic is that 80% of blind > people are unemployed and that 80% of the ones who are employed are Braille > users. I based my statements on my experience and on the people I have > worked with and trained throughout the years. Of course there are exceptions > to every rule. I also believe that there is a huge difference in the Braille > display you are using. For example, using an eighty character display is > much more productive than using a 20 or 40 cell display. > Tommy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >