From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6773F5DD for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADJfkp25464 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADJfkE11416 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:46 -0500 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADJfjw11412 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:46 -0500 Received: from user-38ldabh.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.169.113] helo=lpwh1.pwh.com) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163jRI-0005Lc-00 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:41:44 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by lpwh1.pwh.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00582 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:19 -0500 From: philwh@gate.net Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:41:19 -0500 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Message-ID: <20011113144119.A579@lpwh1> References: <000901c16c6f$10c37860$0100000a@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from janina@afb.net on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:28:42PM -0500 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi. >>From the ifno on the uxdots site, it sounds as if it may be more advanced than speakup as far as cursor and highlight or screen attributes are concerned. but this is just from the ifno fromt he site. I tried to download the demo of uxdots, but the link doesn't work. phil On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:28:42PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > True, but that's all the more reason for a speech only version. Why force > people to take the form factor plus the braille, when they can't afford > the price? I know braille is the only medium most European blind folk care > about, but I'm asking from the U.S. perspective. > > Now, my second point -- What about the included speech? Is it truely > UXDOTS? If so, why? Speakup is free, and UXDOTS isn't. So, what's the > advantage to the user? > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: > > > Well I suppose the same way that every Braille display manufacturer does. > > Braille cost a lot to make. Your response makes it sound as if the ELBA is > > tremendously more expensive than the BrailleNote or the BrailleLite. It > > isn't. I think the price is very competitive, especially since it offers a > > lot more than either one of the other devices. > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list