From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1652C2EFBD for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f884kSW08317 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:46:28 -0400 Received: from mail.sigecom.net (mail.sigecom.net [63.64.9.61]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f884kSg08313 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:46:28 -0400 Received: from mx1.sigecom.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mx1.sigecom.net [63.64.9.3]) by mail.sigecom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f884Z3b00354 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:35:04 -0500 Received: from mx1.sigecom.net (localhost.sigecom.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.sigecom.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AEO10897 (AUTH mailinglists@sigecom.net); Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200109080446.AEO10897@mx1.sigecom.net> Received: from 63.69.213.17 by mx1.sigecom.net with HTTP/1.1; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 03:46:29 -0100 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 03:46:29 -0100 From: Adam Bertram Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 2.9.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.redhat.com id f884kSg08313 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Reply-To: mailinglists@sigecom.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hehe, I knew from the first "bitching" msg, this one would turn into a mess. I think I now have 15 straight messages that have "Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net." :) A ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 22:50:49 -0400 >From: "Angelo Sonnesso" >Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap:  was Ameritech.net >To: > >look at the gnome development project. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jared" >To: >Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:04 PM >Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net > > >> If the command line is so grate write me or help write me a mass market >> application that cells to millions of coppies. You can't because you can't >> use the g u i interface in linux like you can in windows. So you will have >> to write in general smaller market programs if you wish to do that for a >> job. I on the other hand because I'm not thick headed can write G U I >> applications with vb or any number of other tools. As for your comment to >> Mr. Toneby what about the people who tryed to make linux a more user >> friendly opperaiting system generated a G U I so they generated code that >> turned to inaccessible garbige for you so they are just as mutch at fault >as >> sun. A large part of microsoft is that the windows 3.1 was not around for >a >> long enough time for standerds to devolipe. They may have been responcible >> for the inaccessibility in the past but now they are making an effort to >> change that tell me is there anyone trying in the linux community cort or >no >> cort trying to make a screen reader for the G U I part of linux? If so >> please send me email so I can try and help but don't complain about >> microsoft when people arn't working to help your beloved oh so accessible >> linux. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jude DaShiell" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:35 PM >> Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net >> >> >> > The command line interface does not cause me any problems, it's that >other >> > junk that makes life hell. So far as bitching is concerned, you haven't >> > yet heard me bitch. All I did was to state some widely known and >accepted >> > axioms which are axiomatic since they're so easily proven. Were you >> > correct in your statements, the Council Of Agencies Serving the blind >> > would not have contemplated taking Microsoft to court in January of >1995. >> > As it was, certain agreements were reached that seemingly alleviated the >> > necessity for litigation. >> > >> > Jude >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Blinux-list mailing list >> > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list