From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BD62EFB5 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id eB4FOYZ17776 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:24:34 -0500 Received: from cougar.aero-vision.com (IDENT:salt@cougar.aero-vision.com [207.10.28.10]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id eB4FOYD17772 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:24:34 -0500 Received: (from salt@localhost) by cougar.aero-vision.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29306 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:24:34 -0500 From: "A. R. Vener" Message-Id: <200012041524.KAA29306@cougar.aero-vision.com> Subject: Re: free at last no longer free To: blinux-list@redhat.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:24:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Andor Demarteau" at Dec 04, 2000 03:04:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0pre8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion I already know what went wrong. They login process is rejecting my password as invalid. They want me to pay $9.95 / month now after which, I assume they will re-validate my password. While this is certainly well within their rights, it is just as well within mine to decline. At least until they change their name to payatlast.com or something equally as appropriate. If I pay for anything it will be cable or DSL, not a 41 K effective dialup connection. Meanwhile I may as well investigate free access if there is any still available. Rudy > From blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Mon Dec 4 09:08:27 2000 > Return-Path: > Received: from listman.redhat.com (listman.redhat.com [199.183.24.211]) > by cougar.aero-vision.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27438 > for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:08:26 -0500 > Received: from listman.redhat.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP > id 4035F2F128; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:07:52 -0500 (EST) > Delivered-To: blinux-list@listman.redhat.com > Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) > by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548B92F130 > for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:04:04 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from mail@localhost) > by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id eB4E44n02635 > for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:04:04 -0500 > Received: from mail.students.cs.uu.nl (vmailer@solar.students.cs.uu.nl [131.211.82.28]) > by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id eB4E43D02631 > for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:04:03 -0500 > Received: from abeel.students.cs.uu.nl (abeel.students.cs.uu.nl [131.211.82.40]) > by mail.students.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3BA860E > for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:04:02 +0100 (MET) > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:04:02 +0100 (MET) > From: Andor Demarteau > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: free at last no longer free > In-Reply-To: <200012011359.IAA17005@cougar.aero-vision.com> > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com > Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com > List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion > > On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, A. R. Vener wrote: > > > > > > > Apparently there are charging now. > > > > Personally I think they should change their domain to > > 'freeat first.com' but that's another matter. > > > > > > Has anyone managed to get Juno.com, Bluelight.com or any other free ISP > > provider to work with their Linux ppp daemon? If so could you post the > > details here? > have a good look in the following logsifles: /var/log/messages > /var/log/kernel.log /var/log/syslog and maybe /var/log/debug > these files contain info about the sessions you made and what went wrong as > well. > It could probably be that they are using the chap-autentication instead of > the pap-autenticaion protocol which normal isp's often do. > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Rudy > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > slainte leat freisin (cheers to you also), > ----------- > Andor Demarteau E-mail: ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl > student computer science www: http://www.students.cs.uu.nl/~ademarte/ > Utrecht University note: homepage is outdated, don't remind me! > ----------- > Believe in yourself, know what you want, and make it happen! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >