Re: talking terminals

[philwh@gate.net]

I do not think so.
there isn't anything on the linux system at that point to
handle the input from the network card.
at the boot prompt, the kernel is just about to load.
there isn't any telnet or anything else available yet,
not until the system is pretty much installed.
phil
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 10:19:48PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
> When the floppy noise completes, just like normal, just using the phone
> lines instead of serial ports. Can networking work the same thing, like
> text eth0?
> At 10:25 PM 8/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >It should work over a modem.
> >I just plugged the serial terminal into com1, fired it up and loaded commo
> and jaws for dos.
> >I put the floppy into the drive, and puthe cdrom into its drive,
> >and booted the computer. at the boot prompt,
> >which i detected by listening for floppy drive noise, i typed the command
> >i mentioned below.
> >The only thing I could see wrong with a modem installation, is knowing when
> >to type the command.
> >phil
> >On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:08:21PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> Would it do the same over modem? Did you put the CD in the machine to
> >> install on, or do you have to upload it off the machine you use as a
> >> terminal? What if I do it, substituting the port my modem uses? At 09:11 PM
> >> 8/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >I must say you are completely incorrect. I have installed linux
> >> >using a serial terminal dozens of times since 1994 when I started
> >> >with linux.
> >> >I have installed both slackware and redhat using a serial
> >> >terminal, the most recent last
> >> >friday afternoon when I installed
> >> >redhat 6.2 on my computer at work without any sighted help whatsoever.
> >> >just for anyone who wishes to know how,
> >> >at the boot prompt after booting the installation floppy from redhat,
> >> >type the following command to install using a 
> >> >serial terminal, or more acurately a serial console:
> >> >text console=ttyS0,9600n8
> >> >or in my case since i was impatient,
> >> >text console=ttyS0,115200n8
> >> >
> >> >it worked without a problem.
> >> >
> >> >phil
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:56:03AM -0700, cbrannon1979@earthlink.net
> wrote:
> >> >> I was reading all the discussion about talking terminals yesterday.  The
> >> >> way I see it, they have a very big disadvantage to a screenreader for a
> >> >> blind person with a hardware synthesizer.  You need sighted help to
> install
> >> >> Linux with a talking terminal.  And IMNSHO, a sighted person reading a
> >> screen
> >> >> for me is a very poor substitute for speech output, especially if you're
> >> >> like me, and don't
> >> >> know anyone in your area who uses Linux.  I installed Zipspeak with
> >> absolutely
> >> >> zero sighted assistance.  And as far as I can tell, kernels built with
> >> >> Speakup can do this for full distributions, as well.  This would make
> >> >> Linux the only operating system that can be installed by someone who is
> >> blind
> >> >> without sighted help.  Maybe I could install DOS on my own, if I'd
> done it
> >> >> enough, but I wouldn't have the computer actually talking to me while
> I was
> >> >> installing.  And, with Speakup you get speech from bootup to power
> >> >> down.  Only thing that
> >> >> won't talk to you now is the BIOS, and there's supposedly a board you
> >> can get
> >> >> that'll send the BIOS messages out the serial port.    Compare this
> >> setup to
> >> >> Win-95, where speech isn't necessarily constant, even if you're booted
> >> and the 
> >> >> screenreader's active.  (JFW crashes so easy its sick.)
> >> >> But getting back to the topic of talking terminals. Anyone remember the
> >> >> old Apple II computer from the seventies?  That's what I started out
> >> >> on; and I seem to remember that the synthesizer for those was only about
> >> >> $150, or so.  Question is, if a blind person doesn't have a hardware
> >> >> synth, would it be possible to use an Apple II as a terminal under
> >> >> Linux?  You can still find them, once in a while, and like I said, the
> >> >> synth was cheap, even new.  I seem to remember them having a serial
> port,
> >> >> so I'd think they could be usable as talking terminals, for someone with
> >> >> limited funds who doesn't have, and can't afford a hardware synthesizer.
> >> >> Later.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
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