From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2993A2EFC4 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA26877 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:26:00 -0400 Received: from shuswap.gate.net (root@shuswap.gate.net [216.219.246.7]) by mail.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA26873 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:25:59 -0400 From: philwh@gate.net Received: from lpwh.pwh.com (tspsl1-415.gate.net [199.227.173.161]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA32436 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:25:57 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by lpwh.pwh.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00526 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:25:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:25:54 -0400 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: talking terminals Message-ID: <20000822222554.A523@lpwh.pwh.com> References: <20000822211131.B340@lpwh.pwh.com> <3.0.6.32.20000822210821.007e5210@mail.ufw2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000822210821.007e5210@mail.ufw2.com>; from bharding@mail.ufw2.com on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:08:21PM -0500 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion It should work over a modem. I just plugged the serial terminal into com1, fired it up and loaded commo and jaws for dos. I put the floppy into the drive, and puthe cdrom into its drive, and booted the computer. at the boot prompt, which i detected by listening for floppy drive noise, i typed the command i mentioned below. The only thing I could see wrong with a modem installation, is knowing when to type the command. phil On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:08:21PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: > Would it do the same over modem? Did you put the CD in the machine to > install on, or do you have to upload it off the machine you use as a > terminal? What if I do it, substituting the port my modem uses? At 09:11 PM > 8/22/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I must say you are completely incorrect. I have installed linux > >using a serial terminal dozens of times since 1994 when I started > >with linux. > >I have installed both slackware and redhat using a serial > >terminal, the most recent last > >friday afternoon when I installed > >redhat 6.2 on my computer at work without any sighted help whatsoever. > >just for anyone who wishes to know how, > >at the boot prompt after booting the installation floppy from redhat, > >type the following command to install using a > >serial terminal, or more acurately a serial console: > >text console=ttyS0,9600n8 > >or in my case since i was impatient, > >text console=ttyS0,115200n8 > > > >it worked without a problem. > > > >phil > > > >On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:56:03AM -0700, cbrannon1979@earthlink.net wrote: > >> I was reading all the discussion about talking terminals yesterday. The > >> way I see it, they have a very big disadvantage to a screenreader for a > >> blind person with a hardware synthesizer. You need sighted help to install > >> Linux with a talking terminal. And IMNSHO, a sighted person reading a > screen > >> for me is a very poor substitute for speech output, especially if you're > >> like me, and don't > >> know anyone in your area who uses Linux. I installed Zipspeak with > absolutely > >> zero sighted assistance. And as far as I can tell, kernels built with > >> Speakup can do this for full distributions, as well. This would make > >> Linux the only operating system that can be installed by someone who is > blind > >> without sighted help. Maybe I could install DOS on my own, if I'd done it > >> enough, but I wouldn't have the computer actually talking to me while I was > >> installing. And, with Speakup you get speech from bootup to power > >> down. Only thing that > >> won't talk to you now is the BIOS, and there's supposedly a board you > can get > >> that'll send the BIOS messages out the serial port. Compare this > setup to > >> Win-95, where speech isn't necessarily constant, even if you're booted > and the > >> screenreader's active. (JFW crashes so easy its sick.) > >> But getting back to the topic of talking terminals. Anyone remember the > >> old Apple II computer from the seventies? That's what I started out > >> on; and I seem to remember that the synthesizer for those was only about > >> $150, or so. Question is, if a blind person doesn't have a hardware > >> synth, would it be possible to use an Apple II as a terminal under > >> Linux? You can still find them, once in a while, and like I said, the > >> synth was cheap, even new. I seem to remember them having a serial port, > >> so I'd think they could be usable as talking terminals, for someone with > >> limited funds who doesn't have, and can't afford a hardware synthesizer. > >> Later. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list