From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E382F0A2 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA23172 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:37 -0400 Received: from cocopah.gate.net (root@cocopah.gate.net [216.219.246.49]) by mail.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23168 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:36 -0400 From: philwh@gate.net Received: from lpwh.pwh.com (tspsl2-100.gate.net [199.227.20.163]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA168984 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:34 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by lpwh.pwh.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00373 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:11:31 -0400 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: talking terminals Message-ID: <20000822211131.B340@lpwh.pwh.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from cbrannon1979@earthlink.net on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:56:03AM -0700 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion I must say you are completely incorrect. I have installed linux using a serial terminal dozens of times since 1994 when I started with linux. I have installed both slackware and redhat using a serial terminal, the most recent last friday afternoon when I installed redhat 6.2 on my computer at work without any sighted help whatsoever. just for anyone who wishes to know how, at the boot prompt after booting the installation floppy from redhat, type the following command to install using a serial terminal, or more acurately a serial console: text console=ttyS0,9600n8 or in my case since i was impatient, text console=ttyS0,115200n8 it worked without a problem. phil On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:56:03AM -0700, cbrannon1979@earthlink.net wrote: > I was reading all the discussion about talking terminals yesterday. The > way I see it, they have a very big disadvantage to a screenreader for a > blind person with a hardware synthesizer. You need sighted help to install > Linux with a talking terminal. And IMNSHO, a sighted person reading a screen > for me is a very poor substitute for speech output, especially if you're > like me, and don't > know anyone in your area who uses Linux. I installed Zipspeak with absolutely > zero sighted assistance. And as far as I can tell, kernels built with > Speakup can do this for full distributions, as well. This would make > Linux the only operating system that can be installed by someone who is blind > without sighted help. Maybe I could install DOS on my own, if I'd done it > enough, but I wouldn't have the computer actually talking to me while I was > installing. And, with Speakup you get speech from bootup to power > down. Only thing that > won't talk to you now is the BIOS, and there's supposedly a board you can get > that'll send the BIOS messages out the serial port. Compare this setup to > Win-95, where speech isn't necessarily constant, even if you're booted and the > screenreader's active. (JFW crashes so easy its sick.) > But getting back to the topic of talking terminals. Anyone remember the > old Apple II computer from the seventies? That's what I started out > on; and I seem to remember that the synthesizer for those was only about > $150, or so. Question is, if a blind person doesn't have a hardware > synth, would it be possible to use an Apple II as a terminal under > Linux? You can still find them, once in a while, and like I said, the > synth was cheap, even new. I seem to remember them having a serial port, > so I'd think they could be usable as talking terminals, for someone with > limited funds who doesn't have, and can't afford a hardware synthesizer. > Later. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list