From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (qmail 18589 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1998 07:45:18 -0000 Received: from bitbox.tamtafe.nsw.edu.au (root@203.30.141.7) by mail2.redhat.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 1998 07:45:18 -0000 Received: from uucp by bitbox.tamtafe.nsw.edu.au with local-rmail (Exim 1.92 #3) for blinux-list@redhat.com id 0yt5wk-0004rB-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:44:22 +1000 Received: from kerry by gotss1.gotss.ml.org with local (Exim 1.92 #2) id 0yt5wS-0002Vf-00 (Debian); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:44:04 +1000 Message-ID: <19980706174404.48963@gotss1> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:44:04 +1000 From: Kerry Hoath To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Emacspeak and w3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e List-Id: I have just started using emacspeak and emacs 19.34 and it is definitely proving to be an experience. After rtfming thoroughly, and taking the tutorial I feel that I have the basics of movement and the like figured out. I didn't need an editor and ed comes up faster . I have started to work with w3 4.0 and vm as these are the tools I will be mostly using. I have anumber of questions that should probably go to the emacspeak mailing list but I lost the address and the bookmarks relevant to it you send mail to somewhere at vasa.edu or somesuch. I have installed the Debian pre-packaged emacs, bo version 19.34 and emacspeak was installed by hand. I have not gone hamm yet because if the laptop pcmcia card services go west I'm in a bit of a pickle. I start w3 by simply doing: M-X w3 and it brings up the w3 documentation by default. I don't know how to get it to open an arbitery URL. The emacspeak shell script also loads emacs with options I do not understand, my question is if I add customizations to .emacs will they still take effect when I run emacspeak? How do you tell you are on a hyperlink? hitting tab appears to read the url out which isn't what I want, I need to here the link name, at the moment I am cursoring through the line until I find the * chars and hitting return there. When I load emacspeak, I get the message, "No autorevert in search path" This stops the voice test and causes the default screen to be "scratch lisp interaction". Not exactly what I want I'd preferr the default emacs helpscreen. I have searched the source of emacspeak, (Does that count as reading docs?!) and have discovered that it is emacspeak emmitting that error message. Other than commenting out the line (An awful hack I admit,) What is autorevert, should I get it and install it, or how do I make the message go away? Yes, I agree installing the packages would have probably been simpler, but I learn much more this way, and learning is good. If some kind soul can give me any hints or the address to write to for the emacspeak list, that'd be useful. I have tons more questions, but think I've got a feature-packed message as it is so I'll refrain. For reference, I'm using Jim's doubletalk driver with a doubletalk LT (Nice bit of work that.). I'll be pulling it apart as soon as I get better at emacs and learn tcl. If all goes well expect a server for the keynote gold line of synthisizers I can get the developer's kit for them. Regards, Kerry. -- -- Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.ml.org or khoath@bitbox.tamtafe.nsw.edu.au