How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it 
despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of 
you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?

RE: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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I used it, when I still used Linux. I love the voice-lock used with Voxin TTS, and the Tune-in radio support.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

From: Linux for blind general discussion
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:17 PM
To: Linux for blind general discussion
Subject: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it 
despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of 
you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?

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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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On a related question:  Does anybody know how many subscribers there are 
on the Emacspeak e-mail list?

Fernando

Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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I use Emacspeak. I mostly use DirEd and Org mode in Emacs. DirEd is a 
file manager, and Org mode let's you organize notes, to do's, calendar 
events and all sorts of information into a hierarchical structure that 
you can also output into multiple formats. There's a bunch else you can 
do with Emacs, but these are the activities I use Emacs for the most.


On 6/14/2017 12:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it 
> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of 
> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>
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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.

I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code 
editing, shell.

Raphaël
On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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How do you get w3m to work? I've installed both w3m and emacs-w3m and 
restarted emacs, but M-x w3m fails.

Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no 
luck with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I have 
libxml2.

On 06/15/2017 04:40 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.
>
> I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code 
> editing, shell.
>
> Raphaël
> On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
>> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
>> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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try mx-browse-url <cr> and see what happens.
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Linux for 
blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:46:39
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?
> 
> How do you get w3m to work? I've installed both w3m and emacs-w3m and 
> restarted emacs, but M-x w3m fails.
>
> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no luck 
> with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I have libxml2.
>
> On 06/15/2017 04:40 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.
>> 
>> I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code editing, 
>> shell.
>> 
>> Rapha?l
>> On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
>>> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
>>> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes:

> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no
> luck with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I
> have libxml2.

My suspicion is that, although libxml2 is installed on your system, emacs
was not built with support for it.  That's a configure-time option.  If
you're building emacs from source, you'll need to install the -dev package for
libxml2 if your distro does package splitting.  Find the
appropriate configure option by looking at ./configure --help in the
emacs source.  Rebuild and pass that option to ./configure.

I don't know much about what could be going wrong with w3m; I haven't
used it much.  You may get better luck on the emacspeak list.  How is it
failing?  When you try to load it, is there anything interesting in your
*Messages* buffer?  That's a running transcript of the messages that
emacs displays to the user.

As for mail clients, I use gnus.  It's a news reader for Usenet, but it
has support for email.  It took work to set it up.  That work paid off,
and I've been using the same gnus setup with IMAP for many years.

I don't know much about other clients.  You might have better luck
asking on the emacspeak list.  I think there was a discussion recently
about mail clients.  The thread was titled "emacspeak and e-mail".  Try
looking for that in the archives, April 2017 or so?

-- Chris

Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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Try running 'w3m' from the command line like:

w3m http://amazon.com



On 6/16/2017 8:46 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> How do you get w3m to work? I've installed both w3m and emacs-w3m and 
> restarted emacs, but M-x w3m fails.
>
> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no 
> luck with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I 
> have libxml2.
>
> On 06/15/2017 04:40 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.
>>
>> I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code 
>> editing, shell.
>>
>> Raphaël
>> On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
>>> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
>>> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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M-x browse-url <ret> just produces an error sound.
On 06/17/2017 08:42 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> try mx-browse-url <cr> and see what happens.
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:46:39
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> Subject: Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?
>>
>> How do you get w3m to work? I've installed both w3m and emacs-w3m and 
>> restarted emacs, but M-x w3m fails.
>>
>> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no 
>> luck with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I 
>> have libxml2.
>>
>> On 06/15/2017 04:40 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.
>>>
>>> I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code 
>>> editing, shell.
>>>
>>> Rapha?l
>>> On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
>>>> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
>>>> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>

Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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You don't have the following line in your .emacs file yet, that should 
fix it.

(setq browse-url-browser-function 'eww-browse-url)

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017, 
Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:16:31
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?
> 
>
> M-x browse-url <ret> just produces an error sound.
> On 06/17/2017 08:42 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> try mx-browse-url <cr> and see what happens.
>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:46:39
>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> Subject: Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?
>>> 
>>> How do you get w3m to work? I've installed both w3m and emacs-w3m and 
>>> restarted emacs, but M-x w3m fails.
>>> 
>>> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no luck 
>>> with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I have 
>>> libxml2.
>>> 
>>> On 06/15/2017 04:40 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> I use speechd-el but I believe that's similar.
>>>> 
>>>> I manage my e-mail with gnus, Web with w3m, the dired mode, code editing, 
>>>> shell.
>>>> 
>>>> Rapha?l
>>>> On 06/14/2017 07:13 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> It appears powerful and customizable and I'm interested in learning it
>>>>> despite the steep curve. The manual is also easy to read. For those of
>>>>> you who use it regularly, what are your favorite features?
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>> 
>> 
>
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Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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This led me to do a better Google search so now I've reconfigured emacs 
and eww is working. Yay! Now I have math and code-related tools to try 
out. (Anyone use the math navigator?)

I still don't have w3m working and I did not see any useful output in 
the messages buffer.

The emacs manual is generally easy to understand but I'm having the 
opposite experience with gnus. I don't understand much of the 
terminology, I don't yet know elisp and ATM I'm just trying to figure 
out how to set up gmail.
On 06/17/2017 10:31 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Which other email programs and browsers work with emacs? I've had no
>> luck with eww. It gives the error that function requires libxml2. I
>> have libxml2.
> My suspicion is that, although libxml2 is installed on your system, emacs
> was not built with support for it.  That's a configure-time option.  If
> you're building emacs from source, you'll need to install the -dev package for
> libxml2 if your distro does package splitting.  Find the
> appropriate configure option by looking at ./configure --help in the
> emacs source.  Rebuild and pass that option to ./configure.
>
> I don't know much about what could be going wrong with w3m; I haven't
> used it much.  You may get better luck on the emacspeak list.  How is it
> failing?  When you try to load it, is there anything interesting in your
> *Messages* buffer?  That's a running transcript of the messages that
> emacs displays to the user.
>
> As for mail clients, I use gnus.  It's a news reader for Usenet, but it
> has support for email.  It took work to set it up.  That work paid off,
> and I've been using the same gnus setup with IMAP for many years.
>
> I don't know much about other clients.  You might have better luck
> asking on the emacspeak list.  I think there was a discussion recently
> about mail clients.  The thread was titled "emacspeak and e-mail".  Try
> looking for that in the archives, April 2017 or so?
>
> -- Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: How many of y'all use Emacspeak?

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Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes:

> The emacs manual is generally easy to understand but I'm having the
> opposite experience with gnus. I don't understand much of the
> terminology, I don't yet know elisp and ATM I'm just trying to figure
> out how to set up gmail.

Yeah, pretty much my experience back in 2004.  If you plan on learning
elisp, I'd suggest the elisp intro.  It's in the info documentation that
comes with emacs.  Well it does on most distros anyway, but Debian puts
it in a separate package in their nonfree repository.  Package is called
emacs24-common-non-dfsg, emacs25-common-non-dfsg, or some other such
thing.  Because politics.  I think it's called eintr.  So if you use C-h
i to get into the info reader,
g (eintr)
will display it.

I could probably send you all my mail-related configs.  They're
scattered across three or four files.

-- Chris