fedora 28 speakup

fedora 28 speakup

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anny rpm for this?

Re: fedora 28 speakup

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Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.

Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.

Janina

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> anny rpm for this?
> 
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RE: fedora 28 speakup

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If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?


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Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup

Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.

Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.

Janina

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> anny rpm for this?
> 
> 
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Re: fedora 28 speakup

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  I am wondering the very same thing? Are there currently any fully 
built by Dora distribution ISOs that have speak up already in them? The 
reason why I ask, is that I have Fedora in a virtual machine, but it has 
no speak up  in it. And the only way to install it would mean working 
with the sighted person, who has no idea of what Lenox is. So if they 
make a mistake typing the stuff I tell them to type, I am simply  not 
going to get speak up and installed properly. Kim’s the reason why 
I’m looking for an ISO image that’s already enabled what speak up?

Sincerely Maurice  Mines
Amateur call kd0iko.

On 19 Nov 2018, at 13:08, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com 
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> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:39 AM
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup
>
> Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.
>
> Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.
>
> Janina
>
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> anny rpm for this?
>>
>>
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>
> Janina Sajka
>
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
>
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative 
> (WAI)
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Re: fedora 28 speakup

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About a year or so ago Vinux announced they would be building on Fedora.
That would require they solve this problem, but I have not seen a
release.

Personally, this problem is what got me to switch to Arch Linux for the
machines I work with directly. My Linode hosted server still runs
Fedora, but it doesn't need speakup because it's accessed only over ssh.

PS: If you still want to look for a way to stay with Fedora, you might
have better luck compiling Fenrir, though you'll still have to create a
rpm spec file if you intend to create Fenrir rpms.

Best,

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>  I am wondering the very same thing? Are there currently any fully built by
> Dora distribution ISOs that have speak up already in them? The reason why I
> ask, is that I have Fedora in a virtual machine, but it has no speak up  in
> it. And the only way to install it would mean working with the sighted
> person, who has no idea of what Lenox is. So if they make a mistake typing
> the stuff I tell them to type, I am simply  not going to get speak up and
> installed properly. Kim’s the reason why I’m looking for an ISO image that’s
> already enabled what speak up?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice  Mines
> Amateur call kd0iko.
> 
> On 19 Nov 2018, at 13:08, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
> > If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com
> > [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com]
> > On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:39 AM
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup
> > 
> > Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.
> > 
> > Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > anny rpm for this?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Janina Sajka
> > 
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
> > 
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > 
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The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: fedora 28 speakup

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What people have in Fedora that they can't have with Debian, Arch or Slint?

Just curious,

Best,
Didier
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Slint distribution http://slint.fr

On 20/11/2018 16:39, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> About a year or so ago Vinux announced they would be building on Fedora.
> That would require they solve this problem, but I have not seen a
> release.
> 
> Personally, this problem is what got me to switch to Arch Linux for the
> machines I work with directly. My Linode hosted server still runs
> Fedora, but it doesn't need speakup because it's accessed only over ssh.
> 
> PS: If you still want to look for a way to stay with Fedora, you might
> have better luck compiling Fenrir, though you'll still have to create a
> rpm spec file if you intend to create Fenrir rpms.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>  I am wondering the very same thing? Are there currently any fully built by
>> Dora distribution ISOs that have speak up already in them? The reason why I
>> ask, is that I have Fedora in a virtual machine, but it has no speak up  in
>> it. And the only way to install it would mean working with the sighted
>> person, who has no idea of what Lenox is. So if they make a mistake typing
>> the stuff I tell them to type, I am simply  not going to get speak up and
>> installed properly. Kim’s the reason why I’m looking for an ISO image that’s
>> already enabled what speak up?
>>
>> Sincerely Maurice  Mines
>> Amateur call kd0iko.
>>
>> On 19 Nov 2018, at 13:08, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>
>>> If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com
>>> [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:39 AM
>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup
>>>
>>> Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.
>>>
>>> Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>>> anny rpm for this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Janina Sajka
>>>
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
>>>
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>>
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Re: fedora 28 speakup

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Hi, Didier:

I think the answer is usually familiarity with how things work. Yes,
it's all Linux, but the config files in /etc can be very different. And,
of course, package management is very different, e.g. dnf for Fedora,
apt for Debian, pacman for Arch, etc., etc.

I would further hazard there may be applications that are well
maintained on one platform and not another. Is it just my Arch where
Linphone has been so horribly broken for over a year?

I'm actually thinking of running multiple virtual machines to try and
get certain apps working again, perhaps using different OS environments
in each vm.

Janina

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> What people have in Fedora that they can't have with Debian, Arch or Slint?
> 
> Just curious,
> 
> Best,
> Didier
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint distribution http://slint.fr
> 
> On 20/11/2018 16:39, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > About a year or so ago Vinux announced they would be building on Fedora.
> > That would require they solve this problem, but I have not seen a
> > release.
> > 
> > Personally, this problem is what got me to switch to Arch Linux for the
> > machines I work with directly. My Linode hosted server still runs
> > Fedora, but it doesn't need speakup because it's accessed only over ssh.
> > 
> > PS: If you still want to look for a way to stay with Fedora, you might
> > have better luck compiling Fenrir, though you'll still have to create a
> > rpm spec file if you intend to create Fenrir rpms.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> >>  I am wondering the very same thing? Are there currently any fully built by
> >> Dora distribution ISOs that have speak up already in them? The reason why I
> >> ask, is that I have Fedora in a virtual machine, but it has no speak up  in
> >> it. And the only way to install it would mean working with the sighted
> >> person, who has no idea of what Lenox is. So if they make a mistake typing
> >> the stuff I tell them to type, I am simply  not going to get speak up and
> >> installed properly. Kim’s the reason why I’m looking for an ISO image that’s
> >> already enabled what speak up?
> >>
> >> Sincerely Maurice  Mines
> >> Amateur call kd0iko.
> >>
> >> On 19 Nov 2018, at 13:08, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>
> >>> If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com
> >>> [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:39 AM
> >>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup
> >>>
> >>> Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.
> >>>
> >>> Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.
> >>>
> >>> Janina
> >>>
> >>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> >>>> anny rpm for this?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>>
> >>> Janina Sajka
> >>>
> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow
> >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
> >>>
> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> >>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
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The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: fedora 28 speakup

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Learn how to compile Linux kernels today and compile yourself the kernel with the speakup staging module.

That's exactly what Bill used to do for us. Once he had a new kernel
rpm, he'd reach around to everyone he knew who used Fedora and update
them.

No body took up that chore once Bill passed away. Not even the part of
just compiling the rpm.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> If that's the case, what is the easiest way to get Speakup on Fedora?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com]
> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:39 AM
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: fedora 28 speakup
> 
> Not since Bill Acker died some years ago.
> 
> Fedora is still not packaging staging modules, afaik.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > anny rpm for this?
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
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Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa