From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.back-rdu.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4E0mR08344 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:00:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hB4E7cS27093 for blinux-list@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:07:38 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4E7c227087 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:07:38 -0500 Received: from DakotaRainbow.com (ganahee.rapidnet.com [208.34.9.210]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4E7b217516 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:07:38 -0500 Received: from [68.163.230.151] (HELO localhost.localdomain) by DakotaRainbow.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b9d14) with ESMTP id S.0000088019 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:07:32 -0600 Received: (from dave@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hB4EBr404239; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:11:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: dave set sender to dave.hunt2@verizon.net using -f From: Dave Hunt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16335.16552.833042.129088@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:11:52 -0500 (EST) To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? In-Reply-To: <001301c3ba58$1f4e0100$27356bd5@NigelStoppard> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031203132530.00a9f8e0@incoming.verizon.net> <001301c3ba58$1f4e0100$27356bd5@NigelStoppard> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under Emacs 20.7.1 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Reply-To: dave.hunt2@verizon.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Many of the tools I use with emacspeak are either entirely written in emacs-lisp or front ends for accessing tools written in other languages. Emacspeak, itself, is one of the former. All these are extensions of emacs's feature set. I have three web clients I use with emacspeak, w3, w3m, and lynx. There's a nice mode for launching and running lynx from within emacspeak. W3 is a web client, written entirely in emacs-lisp. Finally, there's a speech-enabled "front end" for the w3m web client. I need three because none works on all sites I often visit. For irc and other things, I run a shell (mine happens to be BASH), from within emacs. All the editing features of emacs are available in a shell buffer. Thus, you can move around the buffer, do searches, save a bunch of commands and responses, and so on. It's better than any screen-review mode; you have a running log of your shell session. This letter is written with yet another emacspeak-enabled extension called VM. -Dave