Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Matthew Campbell]

trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
plays the audio and discards the rest.

trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
home page is at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html

You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.

Enjoy,
-- 
Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
ICQ #:  33005941

Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[brent harding]

Where do I get real player 7.0 for linux?
I wonder, with that such graphical form, if it's better to fill it out in
windows, download the file and move it to my linux partition to unpack. Is
x-windows needed for realplayer 7.0 and or trplayer? If so, how would I get
speech so I could use it?
At 07:50 AM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
>interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
>accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
>interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
>formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
>In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
>plays the audio and discards the rest.
>
>trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
>home page is at:
>
>http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
>
>You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.
>
>Enjoy,
>-- 
>Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
>Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
>ICQ #:  33005941
>
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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	X windows is needed for RealPlayer, but you won't even need to go
into X. Get the rpm of realplayer, there's one at ftp.braille.uwo.ca in
/pub/linux/goodies directory. Don't use the alien utility in debian to
convert this package, it doesn't work. Install the resulting rpm like
this:
rpm -Uvh --nodeps RealPlayer-7.0-1.i386.rpm
	Please be aware that debian has a realplayer package. However, if
you do it this way, trplayer won't work do to some library functions
missing. The installer package must not install them.
	When you get trplayer running, you'll love it. No more rap script
to fool with just trying to get it to interface to the realplayer.

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> Where do I get real player 7.0 for linux?
> I wonder, with that such graphical form, if it's better to fill it out in
> windows, download the file and move it to my linux partition to unpack. Is
> x-windows needed for realplayer 7.0 and or trplayer? If so, how would I get
> speech so I could use it?
> At 07:50 AM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
> >interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
> >accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
> >interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
> >formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
> >In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
> >plays the audio and discards the rest.
> >
> >trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
> >home page is at:
> >
> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
> >
> >You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.
> >
> >Enjoy,
> >-- 
> >Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
> >Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
> >ICQ #:  33005941
> >
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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Janina Sajka]

Hi:

I just filled out the form for Real Player 7 and got an rpm download
without any real dificulty. I used Lynx 2.8.2. Main problem was getting
past all the .gif files they seem to be using for layout. Lots of links
signifying nothing, imho.

The link for the Real Player download is on Matt's site.

PS: I think it would be useful to create a download form without all the
extraneous graphics for people to use. At AFB we did this some years ago
when we were getting ready to broadcast over the web from an AFB
conference. We wanted to make it easier for people to hear the speech by
FCC Chairman Kennard. It became one of our web sites most popular links.

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> Where do I get real player 7.0 for linux?
> I wonder, with that such graphical form, if it's better to fill it out in
> windows, download the file and move it to my linux partition to unpack. Is
> x-windows needed for realplayer 7.0 and or trplayer? If so, how would I get
> speech so I could use it?
> At 07:50 AM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
> >interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
> >accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
> >interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
> >formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
> >In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
> >plays the audio and discards the rest.
> >
> >trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
> >home page is at:
> >
> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
> >
> >You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.
> >
> >Enjoy,
> >-- 
> >Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
> >Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
> >ICQ #:  33005941
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net

Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Matthew Campbell]

Janina wrote:
>PS: I think it would be useful to create a download form without all the
>extraneous graphics for people to use. At AFB we did this some years ago
>when we were getting ready to broadcast over the web from an AFB
>conference. We wanted to make it easier for people to hear the speech by
>FCC Chairman Kennard. It became one of our web sites most popular links.

Can we do that without violating RealNetworks' copyright?  I'm willing
to do the HTML coding, but I want to make sure it's legal first.

-- 
Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
ICQ #:  33005941

Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[brent harding]

Do I just download rpg2.tgz? I didn't find a single rpm in the root
directory of /pub/linux/goodies on the speakup siteAt 02:43 PM 6/20/00
-0400, you wrote:
>Hi
>	X windows is needed for RealPlayer, but you won't even need to go
>into X. Get the rpm of realplayer, there's one at ftp.braille.uwo.ca in
>/pub/linux/goodies directory. Don't use the alien utility in debian to
>convert this package, it doesn't work. Install the resulting rpm like
>this:
>rpm -Uvh --nodeps RealPlayer-7.0-1.i386.rpm
>	Please be aware that debian has a realplayer package. However, if
>you do it this way, trplayer won't work do to some library functions
>missing. The installer package must not install them.
>	When you get trplayer running, you'll love it. No more rap script
>to fool with just trying to get it to interface to the realplayer.
>
>On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:
>
>> Where do I get real player 7.0 for linux?
>> I wonder, with that such graphical form, if it's better to fill it out in
>> windows, download the file and move it to my linux partition to unpack. Is
>> x-windows needed for realplayer 7.0 and or trplayer? If so, how would I get
>> speech so I could use it?
>> At 07:50 AM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
>> >interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
>> >accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
>> >interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
>> >formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
>> >In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
>> >plays the audio and discards the rest.
>> >
>> >trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
>> >home page is at:
>> >
>> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
>> >
>> >You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.
>> >
>> >Enjoy,
>> >-- 
>> >Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
>> >Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
>> >ICQ #:  33005941
>> >
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Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[T. V. Raman]

Good work.

 Emacspeak users can set variable 
emacspeak-realaudio-player
to "trplayer"
--to replace the old rap shell script --
>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net> writes:

    Matthew> trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which
    Matthew> has a text-based interface instead of a
    Matthew> graphical interface.  This makes it fully
    Matthew> accessible to blind users and others who can't
    Matthew> use the graphical user interface or prefer the
    Matthew> text interface.  trplayer supports all media
    Matthew> formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio,
    Matthew> RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).  In presentations which
    Matthew> involve video and other visual media, trplayer
    Matthew> plays the audio and discards the rest.

    Matthew> trplayer is available for Linux and is a free
    Matthew> download.  The trplayer home page is at:

    Matthew> http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html

    Matthew> You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in
    Matthew> order to use trplayer.

    Matthew> Enjoy, -- Matt Campbell
    Matthew> <mattcamp@crosswinds.net> Web site:
    Matthew> http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/ ICQ #:
    Matthew> 33005941

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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[brent harding]

Can I use the slackware package from the goodies directory on my debian
system? I'm in the progress of downloading it, wonder if it's worth while,
I hear the debian package lacks some critical libraries for trplayer.
At 03:27 PM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Janina wrote:
>>PS: I think it would be useful to create a download form without all the
>>extraneous graphics for people to use. At AFB we did this some years ago
>>when we were getting ready to broadcast over the web from an AFB
>>conference. We wanted to make it easier for people to hear the speech by
>>FCC Chairman Kennard. It became one of our web sites most popular links.
>
>Can we do that without violating RealNetworks' copyright?  I'm willing
>to do the HTML coding, but I want to make sure it's legal first.
>
>-- 
>Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
>Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
>ICQ #:  33005941
>
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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	No. The file is called RealPlayer-7.0-1.i386.rpm I believe. I know
it's an rpm, I just downloaded it today to reinstall my realplayer. Do not
use rpg2.tgz that's for the G2 player and not 7.0.

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> Do I just download rpg2.tgz? I didn't find a single rpm in the root
> directory of /pub/linux/goodies on the speakup siteAt 02:43 PM 6/20/00
> -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >	X windows is needed for RealPlayer, but you won't even need to go
> >into X. Get the rpm of realplayer, there's one at ftp.braille.uwo.ca in
> >/pub/linux/goodies directory. Don't use the alien utility in debian to
> >convert this package, it doesn't work. Install the resulting rpm like
> >this:
> >rpm -Uvh --nodeps RealPlayer-7.0-1.i386.rpm
> >	Please be aware that debian has a realplayer package. However, if
> >you do it this way, trplayer won't work do to some library functions
> >missing. The installer package must not install them.
> >	When you get trplayer running, you'll love it. No more rap script
> >to fool with just trying to get it to interface to the realplayer.
> >
> >On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:
> >
> >> Where do I get real player 7.0 for linux?
> >> I wonder, with that such graphical form, if it's better to fill it out in
> >> windows, download the file and move it to my linux partition to unpack. Is
> >> x-windows needed for realplayer 7.0 and or trplayer? If so, how would I get
> >> speech so I could use it?
> >> At 07:50 AM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >trplayer is a RealMedia player for Linux which has a text-based
> >> >interface instead of a graphical interface.  This makes it fully
> >> >accessible to blind users and others who can't use the graphical user
> >> >interface or prefer the text interface.  trplayer supports all media
> >> >formats supported by RealPlayer 7 (RealAudio, RealVIdeo, MP3, etc.).
> >> >In presentations which involve video and other visual media, trplayer
> >> >plays the audio and discards the rest.
> >> >
> >> >trplayer is available for Linux and is a free download.  The trplayer
> >> >home page is at:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
> >> >
> >> >You will also need RealPlayer 7 for Linux in order to use trplayer.
> >> >
> >> >Enjoy,
> >> >-- 
> >> >Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
> >> >Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
> >> >ICQ #:  33005941
> >> >
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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	You must use the rpm of 7.0 that is there. The slackware package
is for g2.

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> Can I use the slackware package from the goodies directory on my debian
> system? I'm in the progress of downloading it, wonder if it's worth while,
> I hear the debian package lacks some critical libraries for trplayer.
> At 03:27 PM 6/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Janina wrote:
> >>PS: I think it would be useful to create a download form without all the
> >>extraneous graphics for people to use. At AFB we did this some years ago
> >>when we were getting ready to broadcast over the web from an AFB
> >>conference. We wanted to make it easier for people to hear the speech by
> >>FCC Chairman Kennard. It became one of our web sites most popular links.
> >
> >Can we do that without violating RealNetworks' copyright?  I'm willing
> >to do the HTML coding, but I want to make sure it's legal first.
> >
> >-- 
> >Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
> >Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
> >ICQ #:  33005941
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Re: Announcing trplayer 1.0.0: An Accessible RealMedia Player

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Matt:

Since I'm not an attorney, I can't really answer this.

I can only give my opinion as a consumer. I believe the copyright on the
web page design prevents someone else from using the same design elsewhere
and for other purposes. In my view, therefore, building a completely
different form that provides RA all of the data and sources the same
distribution channels would not be any kind of violation. I think of this
approach much like a translation into another language--which can be
achieved through proxy servers. The difference in this instance is that
the translation is to a medium more appropriate to a class of users,
rather than to a language group.

I hope this helps.

At the time we at AFB posted our form, we were in contact with RA and were
trying to get them to make their forms friendlier. They did make some
effort in this direction, but did not really listen to us, so their
efforts were only marginally better. Also, they took long enough that we
simply went ahead. After all, we had a conference scheduled, and the
Chairman of the FCC coming to talk about Sec. 255. We wanted people
everywhere to hear that.


On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Janina wrote:
> >PS: I think it would be useful to create a download form without all the
> >extraneous graphics for people to use. At AFB we did this some years ago
> >when we were getting ready to broadcast over the web from an AFB
> >conference. We wanted to make it easier for people to hear the speech by
> >FCC Chairman Kennard. It became one of our web sites most popular links.
> 
> Can we do that without violating RealNetworks' copyright?  I'm willing
> to do the HTML coding, but I want to make sure it's legal first.
> 
> 

-- 

				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net