RE: weasel Pc

RE: weasel Pc

[PRASADSL]

one of my friend had been using a gadget called wierdwire ..it just
automated chip having a embedded linux...which sees the bios and dictate
things ...you can manipulate it through keyboard... 
but yes one draw back ..once pc boots up it is unable to dictate any nore as
it has a very low memory and the vendor said that low mem was kept to
control its price ...anyways after pc boot up u do not even need one....
the gadget is an indian make ...a local vendorer ...lemme check whether they
are still in business or not ...due to slow down many companies closed :(

sachin
and yes plz do not mind the discalimer which will be attached to this mail
..i know its frustating but still i am helpless 


-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Homiak [mailto:chomiak@chartermi.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:03 AM
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: weasel Pc


wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product.
Url is
www.realweasel.com/intro.html
I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his
computer
and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the bios before boot
and, if
I understood correctly, he could then also make changes with sighted help.
but
I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a PCI version.
Not
saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to give up one of
my
slots to this (except temporarily when need arises), but it is frustrating
not
to be able to check bios settings without sighted help. Any input on this,
especially if anybody has had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.
TIA.



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weasel Pc

[Cheryl Homiak]

wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product. Url is
www.realweasel.com/intro.html
I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his computer
and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the bios before boot and, if
I understood correctly, he could then also make changes with sighted help. but
I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a PCI version. Not
saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to give up one of my
slots to this (except temporarily when need arises), but it is frustrating not
to be able to check bios settings without sighted help. Any input on this,
especially if anybody has had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.
TIA.

Re: weasel Pc

[philwh]

HI.
I have been using one of the isa versions for about 2 years now.
It is a very good device for setting the bios settings,
and even using dos/linux or any other text based operating
system.
although, I wouldn't want to use it for that purpose for any length of time
when there are better ways of doing so.
your bios must be a text bios not one of the win bioses such
as the ones that ami uses.
if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

phil

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 07:33:20PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product. Url is
> www.realweasel.com/intro.html
> I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his computer
> and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the bios before boot and, if
> I understood correctly, he could then also make changes with sighted help. but
> I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a PCI version. Not
> saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to give up one of my
> slots to this (except temporarily when need arises), but it is frustrating not
> to be able to check bios settings without sighted help. Any input on this,
> especially if anybody has had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.
> TIA.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: weasel Pc

[Brent Harding]

Well, how else besides sighted help can one use besides this device? Does
this device talk, or does it make it so I'd hook a synth up to a serial
port built in and do things that way.
At 08:32 PM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote:
>HI.
>I have been using one of the isa versions for about 2 years now.
>It is a very good device for setting the bios settings,
>and even using dos/linux or any other text based operating
>system.
>although, I wouldn't want to use it for that purpose for any length of time
>when there are better ways of doing so.
>your bios must be a text bios not one of the win bioses such
>as the ones that ami uses.
>if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
>
>phil
>
>On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 07:33:20PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>> wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this
product. Url is
>> www.realweasel.com/intro.html
>> I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his
computer
>> and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the bios before boot
and, if
>> I understood correctly, he could then also make changes with sighted
help. but
>> I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a PCI
version. Not
>> saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to give up
one of my
>> slots to this (except temporarily when need arises), but it is
frustrating not
>> to be able to check bios settings without sighted help. Any input on this,
>> especially if anybody has had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.
>> TIA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: weasel Pc

[philwh]

The pc weasel has a serial port on it.
You must attach another computer to the port and run
a terminal emulation program that will emulate a vt100 terminal.
I use an old 486 running dos, commo 7.8 and jaws for dos
with an accent sa as my synthesizer.
I am sure you could also use windows as well
with hyperterm if that is its name.
The pc weasel also has a key board port. you attach a supplied cable from
the pc weasel keyport to the keyboard port on
your pc where theyou have installed the pc weasel.

phil
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:57:43PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> Well, how else besides sighted help can one use besides this device? Does
> this device talk, or does it make it so I'd hook a synth up to a serial
> port built in and do things that way.

Re: weasel Pc

[Katsuaki Watanabe]

 Hi. I am Katsuaki from Tokyo.
>wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product. Url is
>www.realweasel.com/intro.html

 I bought PC-weasel 2000 for isa version last March, and
I thought this was pretty wonderful.
I am total blind, so I had never seen and manipulated bios since I
got one.
But I can do it now!
 As soon as I get this
I changed bios menu to boot my FreeBSD box from cdrom.

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Re: weasel Pc

[Mario Lang]

Cheryl Homiak <chomiak@chartermi.net> writes:

> wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product.

Yeah, I use it at work. See below.

> I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his
> computer and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the
> bios before boot and, if I understood correctly, he could then also
> make changes with sighted help.

NO! Without sighted help! Thats the key. Only thing you need is a second
PC, or a VT100 terminal capable notetaker or such. At work I simply
use my main workstation. I have ttyS1 connected to the realweasel and
use Minicom as terminal emulator. It works perfectly, as long
as the BIOS isnt of the very new kind with graphics display. But
bios wasnt the main motivation for me. Linux installation is very simple
with this card. In  fact, as I said, I use it at work for installing
Linux PCs. Get a new PC, open it, put the realweasel in, boot up,
install debian, make sure IP adress and SSH works, power down, remove the
weasel, close PC again, and fire it up... Then I do everything over the net.

> but I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a
> PCI version.

?? Really. You seen a PCI version there! I have to buy it, now!

> Not saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to
> give up one of my slots to this (except temporarily when need
> arises), but it is frustrating not to be able to check bios settings
> without sighted help. Any input on this, especially if anybody has
> had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.  TIA.
I can only say, it eased my work very much. And the product is real fun,
can go up to 240000bps if I remember right. Has a little internal menu for remote
control. Say, you could reboot the PC via a escape sequence if you had
one little cable connected. That basicly would allow you to connect the realweeasel
to a modem and therefore a phone and remote control a server somewhere. Its
really a nice thing. When I play with it, I started to ask myself: "And why
dont do modern BIOSes just do that for you?"


-- 
CYa,
  Mario

Re: weasel Pc

[Brent Harding]

Well, don't think the modern bios usually provides the functionality of the
realweasel because it's mostly something one would use on servers, not on
client machines. I think there's some servers that support some remote bios
changing features, rebooting, and other stuff.
At 01:48 PM 3/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Cheryl Homiak <chomiak@chartermi.net> writes:
>
>> wondered if anybody had any experience with or knowledge of this product.
>
>Yeah, I use it at work. See below.
>
>> I thought I read a while back that a blind person had put this in his
>> computer and was able to use it for reading what comes up in the
>> bios before boot and, if I understood correctly, he could then also
>> make changes with sighted help.
>
>NO! Without sighted help! Thats the key. Only thing you need is a second
>PC, or a VT100 terminal capable notetaker or such. At work I simply
>use my main workstation. I have ttyS1 connected to the realweasel and
>use Minicom as terminal emulator. It works perfectly, as long
>as the BIOS isnt of the very new kind with graphics display. But
>bios wasnt the main motivation for me. Linux installation is very simple
>with this card. In  fact, as I said, I use it at work for installing
>Linux PCs. Get a new PC, open it, put the realweasel in, boot up,
>install debian, make sure IP adress and SSH works, power down, remove the
>weasel, close PC again, and fire it up... Then I do everything over the net.
>
>> but I'm not sure about this. there's apparently both an ISA and a
>> PCI version.
>
>?? Really. You seen a PCI version there! I have to buy it, now!
>
>> Not saying I'd rush out and buy one or that i necessarily want to
>> give up one of my slots to this (except temporarily when need
>> arises), but it is frustrating not to be able to check bios settings
>> without sighted help. Any input on this, especially if anybody has
>> had firsthand experience, would be appreciated.  TIA.
>I can only say, it eased my work very much. And the product is real fun,
>can go up to 240000bps if I remember right. Has a little internal menu for
remote
>control. Say, you could reboot the PC via a escape sequence if you had
>one little cable connected. That basicly would allow you to connect the
realweeasel
>to a modem and therefore a phone and remote control a server somewhere. Its
>really a nice thing. When I play with it, I started to ask myself: "And why
>dont do modern BIOSes just do that for you?"
>
>
>-- 
>CYa,
>  Mario
>
>
>
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