Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

Hello,
I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the GUI in
Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for now. Can
it do anything that you can't do in console mode? Is the Mozilla browser
usable in console mode?
I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't boot from
my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
installation boot floppy? Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
Braille output as soon as possible?
Thanks a lot.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

Nicolas,
Nice to see you on this list. I've just been reading the brltty manual. I
also downloaded the complete brltty package, but what do you know. I'm
having trouble getting Windows to decompress it, even though the beast
claims that it can do so.
Thanks for all your answers and for your work on brltty. It is very
important for those of us who are deaf as well as blind.
John


Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 14:30
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the GUI in
> > Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for now.
> > Can it do anything that you can't do in console mode?
>
> Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.
>
> > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
>
> No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> lynx and links (note the spelling).
>
> > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't boot
from
> > my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> > installation boot floppy?
>
> Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the tools to write
it
> from DOS on the CD itself as well as on RedHat's FTP site.
>
> > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > Braille output as soon as possible?
>
> Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
>
>
> Nicolas
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Nicolas Pitre]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:

> Hello,
> I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the GUI in
> Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for now. 
> Can it do anything that you can't do in console mode?

Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.

> Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?

No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode: 
lynx and links (note the spelling).

> I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't boot from
> my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> installation boot floppy? 

Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the tools to write it 
from DOS on the CD itself as well as on RedHat's FTP site.

> Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> Braille output as soon as possible?

Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.


Nicolas

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Janina Sajka]

John:

It's hard to advise you when you only hint at what you use to access 
computer interfaces. You mention braille. Well and good. You will not 
install using braille, because you will not have brltty running, at least 
not with the installation disks you get from Redhat.

If you can also use speech, get the speakup enabled Redhat 7.2 iso images 
from ftp://www.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/redhat/7.2/

 On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, 
John J. Boyer wrote:

> Hello,
> I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the GUI in
> Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for now. Can
> it do anything that you can't do in console mode? Is the Mozilla browser
> usable in console mode?
> I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't boot from
> my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> installation boot floppy? Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> Braille output as soon as possible?
> Thanks a lot.
> John
> 
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[David Poehlman]

what are you using to decompress it?  I have a utility that may help.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Boyer" <director@chpi.org>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


Nicolas,
Nice to see you on this list. I've just been reading the brltty manual.
I
also downloaded the complete brltty package, but what do you know. I'm
having trouble getting Windows to decompress it, even though the beast
claims that it can do so.
Thanks for all your answers and for your work on brltty. It is very
important for those of us who are deaf as well as blind.
John


Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 14:30
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the
GUI in
> > Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for
now.
> > Can it do anything that you can't do in console mode?
>
> Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.
>
> > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
>
> No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> lynx and links (note the spelling).
>
> > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't
boot
from
> > my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> > installation boot floppy?
>
> Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the tools to
write
it
> from DOS on the CD itself as well as on RedHat's FTP site.
>
> > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > Braille output as soon as possible?
>
> Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
>
>
> Nicolas
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list@redhat.com
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Nicolas Pitre]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:

> Nicolas,
> Nice to see you on this list. I've just been reading the brltty manual. I
> also downloaded the complete brltty package, but what do you know. I'm
> having trouble getting Windows to decompress it, even though the beast
> claims that it can do so.

The BRLTTY manual might be lacking behind I'm afraid.

Once you can get inside the archive, you'll find all the instructions on how 
to create BRLTTY enabled installation bootdisks in the /bootdisks 
subdirectory.  You should then be able to boot with the floppy and go on 
with the installation using the CD afterwards.

I think Dave Mielke (the current BRLTTY maintainer) had plans about putting 
BRLTTY enabled floppy images on his website.  Maybe you could try to ping 
him about that.

> Thanks for all your answers and for your work on brltty. It is very
> important for those of us who are deaf as well as blind.

Keep the faith!


Nicolas


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 14:30
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the GUI in
> > > Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for now.
> > > Can it do anything that you can't do in console mode?
> >
> > Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.
> >
> > > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
> >
> > No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> > lynx and links (note the spelling).
> >
> > > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't boot
> from
> > > my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> > > installation boot floppy?
> >
> > Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the tools to write
> it
> > from DOS on the CD itself as well as on RedHat's FTP site.
> >
> > > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > > Braille output as soon as possible?
> >
> > Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
> >
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Janina Sajka]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> 
> > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > Braille output as soon as possible?
> 
> Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
> 
Didn't know that would work. That's very good news. Sorry about my 
mistake.

				Janina

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

David,
I'm using "easyzip", but can't figure out how to get it to extract the
files. Maybe you could send your utility to me as an attachment at
director@chpi.org
Thanks.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 15:22
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> what are you using to decompress it?  I have a utility that may help.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John J. Boyer" <director@chpi.org>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Nicolas,
> Nice to see you on this list. I've just been reading the brltty manual.
> I
> also downloaded the complete brltty package, but what do you know. I'm
> having trouble getting Windows to decompress it, even though the beast
> claims that it can do so.
> Thanks for all your answers and for your work on brltty. It is very
> important for those of us who are deaf as well as blind.
> John
>
>
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 14:30
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I've just been looking at the Redhat site. They make a lot of the
> GUI in
> > > Redhat 7.2. It uses Gnome 1.4. I assume the GUI is inaccessible for
> now.
> > > Can it do anything that you can't do in console mode?
> >
> > Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.
> >
> > > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
> >
> > No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> > lynx and links (note the spelling).
> >
> > > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I can't
> boot
> from
> > > my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat sells for $60 include an
> > > installation boot floppy?
> >
> > Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the tools to
> write
> it
> > from DOS on the CD itself as well as on RedHat's FTP site.
> >
> > > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > > Braille output as soon as possible?
> >
> > Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
> >
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

Janina,
It's good news indeed that brltty can be put on a boot disk. We are all
learning. This list has been very helpful. I hope soon to be able to answer
some questions, instead of always asking them.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 15:23
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >
> > > Can I add brltty to that floppy so I can have
> > > Braille output as soon as possible?
> >
> > Certainly.  See the BRLTTY distribution for instructions.
> >
> Didn't know that would work. That's very good news. Sorry about my
> mistake.
>
> Janina
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
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>

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

L. C.,
Thanks. I might try downloading the ISO cd images. We have both DSL and a cd
burner.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "L. C. Robinson" <lcr@onewest.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 15:42
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > > Can it [GUI] do anything that you can't do in console mode?
> >
> > Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.
>
> Indeed.  GUI-only users can never hope to access the full power
> of Linux.  No GUI, on any OS, can ever hope to provide the
> flexibility and options you can get through the shells and
> associated tools, using the Unix modular toolset philosophy.
> These issues have been discussed before on this list, in detail.
> See the list archives for more info.
>
> > > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
> >
> > No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> > lynx and links (note the spelling).
>
> And there are some other options which may be even better, for
> some users, both line oriented, and through emacspeak... (leaving
> it to actual users of these to give the details).
>
> > > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I
> > > can't boot from my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat
> > > sells for $60 include an installation boot floppy?
> >
> > Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the
> > tools to write it from DOS on the CD itself as well as on
> > RedHat's FTP site.
>
> And save your money.  Unless you have some use for the paper
> documentation that comes with the boxed sets, or want phone
> support (they would probably want to walk you through using some
> GUI configuration tools), you could do just as well with the
> cheap CD's sold by other vendors like cheapbytes.com (see the
> blinux FAQ for details, including how to get online
> documentation).  If you have a fast connection and a CD writer,
> you can even download the ISO CD images for free.
>
> --
> L. C. Robinson
> reply to no_spam+munged_lcr@onewest.net.invalid
>
> People buy MicroShaft for compatibility, but get incompatibility and
> instability instead.  This is award winning "innovation".  Find
> out how MS holds your data hostage with "The *Lens*"; see
> "CyberSnare" at http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[L. C. Robinson]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > Can it [GUI] do anything that you can't do in console mode?
> 
> Probably.  I never suffered from that yet though.

Indeed.  GUI-only users can never hope to access the full power
of Linux.  No GUI, on any OS, can ever hope to provide the
flexibility and options you can get through the shells and
associated tools, using the Unix modular toolset philosophy.
These issues have been discussed before on this list, in detail.
See the list archives for more info.

> > Is the Mozilla browser usable in console mode?
> 
> No.  However there are two alternatives that work in text mode:
> lynx and links (note the spelling).

And there are some other options which may be even better, for
some users, both line oriented, and through emacspeak... (leaving
it to actual users of these to give the details).
 
> > I will have to start my installation with a floppy, since I
> > can't boot from my cd-rom. Does the disk set that Redhat
> > sells for $60 include an installation boot floppy? 
> 
> Don't know.  However you can find the floppy image and the
> tools to write it from DOS on the CD itself as well as on
> RedHat's FTP site.

And save your money.  Unless you have some use for the paper
documentation that comes with the boxed sets, or want phone
support (they would probably want to walk you through using some
GUI configuration tools), you could do just as well with the
cheap CD's sold by other vendors like cheapbytes.com (see the
blinux FAQ for details, including how to get online
documentation).  If you have a fast connection and a CD writer,
you can even download the ISO CD images for free.

-- 
L. C. Robinson
reply to no_spam+munged_lcr@onewest.net.invalid

People buy MicroShaft for compatibility, but get incompatibility and
instability instead.  This is award winning "innovation".  Find
out how MS holds your data hostage with "The *Lens*"; see
"CyberSnare" at http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Dave Hunt]

John:

Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I believe
you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.  

If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup web
site
  They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.  If
you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get you
started.

-Dave

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

Dave,
Thans for your suggestions. A student from the nearby UW-Madison just got
Redhat 7.1, which he had on cd, installed for me with brltty. I'll upgrade
to 7.2 when i get used to this new kid.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 15:18
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> John:
>
> Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
> pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I believe
> you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.
>
> If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup web
> site
>   They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.  If
> you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get you
> started.
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[John J. Boyer]

Georgina,
Thanks for the invitation to the speakup list. However, i am deaf and don't
understand speech, so I'm sticking with Braille. I like Braille better
anyway.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 09:17
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> Hi
>
> I wondered if we'll see you on the Speakup Reflector?  I think that you'll
> have to get a sound card working but we do use text chat so the Speakup
> Reflector might enable you to participate a little more.  Look forward to
> communicating with you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: 17 November 2001 21:25
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Dave,
> Thans for your suggestions. A student from the nearby UW-Madison just got
> Redhat 7.1, which he had on cd, installed for me with brltty. I'll upgrade
> to 7.2 when i get used to this new kid.
> John
>
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 15:18
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
> > pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I
believe
> > you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.
> >
> > If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup
web
> > site
> >   They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.
If
> > you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get
you
> > started.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
>
>
>
>
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RE: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Georgina]

Hi

I wondered if we'll see you on the Speakup Reflector?  I think that you'll
have to get a sound card working but we do use text chat so the Speakup
Reflector might enable you to participate a little more.  Look forward to
communicating with you.

-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: 17 November 2001 21:25
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


Dave,
Thans for your suggestions. A student from the nearby UW-Madison just got
Redhat 7.1, which he had on cd, installed for me with brltty. I'll upgrade
to 7.2 when i get used to this new kid.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 15:18
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> John:
>
> Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
> pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I believe
> you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.
>
> If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup web
> site
>   They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.  If
> you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get you
> started.
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
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RE: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Georgina]

Hi

Exactly, that's the point I was making.  You may need to get a sound card
working so that SpeakFreely will work but we do use text chat too on the
reflector, thus you'd be able to participate.  I have brltty installed and
when my sound card decided to give up, well it was my newly compiled kernel,
I could still use my Braille display.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: 18 November 2001 12:56
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


Georgina,
Thanks for the invitation to the speakup list. However, i am deaf and don't
understand speech, so I'm sticking with Braille. I like Braille better
anyway.
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 09:17
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2


> Hi
>
> I wondered if we'll see you on the Speakup Reflector?  I think that you'll
> have to get a sound card working but we do use text chat so the Speakup
> Reflector might enable you to participate a little more.  Look forward to
> communicating with you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: 17 November 2001 21:25
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Dave,
> Thans for your suggestions. A student from the nearby UW-Madison just got
> Redhat 7.1, which he had on cd, installed for me with brltty. I'll upgrade
> to 7.2 when i get used to this new kid.
> John
>
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 15:18
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
> > pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I
believe
> > you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.
> >
> > If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup
web
> > site
> >   They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.
If
> > you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get
you
> > started.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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RE: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Brent Harding]

My sound works with the drivers that the kernel comes with, if it's good
enough. At least redhat automates a lot of the task, not sure where major
and minor numbers are derived from for devices to pass to the module
parameters. I never did get some of the scientific calculations howtos talk
about, as they don't explain them, especially the ramdisk word for bootdisks.
At 02:17 PM 11/18/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I wondered if we'll see you on the Speakup Reflector?  I think that you'll
>have to get a sound card working but we do use text chat so the Speakup
>Reflector might enable you to participate a little more.  Look forward to
>communicating with you.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
>Sent: 17 November 2001 21:25
>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
>Dave,
>Thans for your suggestions. A student from the nearby UW-Madison just got
>Redhat 7.1, which he had on cd, installed for me with brltty. I'll upgrade
>to 7.2 when i get used to this new kid.
>John
>
>Computers to Help People, Inc.
>http://www.chpi.org
>825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 15:18
>Subject: Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2
>
>
>> John:
>>
>> Redhat 7.2 still offers console mode and the apps the go with it (lynx,
>> pine, etc...).  In addition, it offers gui tools and x-windows.  I believe
>> you can choose not to install ny of the X stuff.
>>
>> If you're looking for a talking installer disk, check out the speakup web
>> site
>>   They have installation boot floppies for a few Linux distributions.  If
>> you have one of the synthesizers supported by Speakup, this should get you
>> started.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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>
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Re: Accessibility of Redhat 7.2

[Dave Mielke]

[quoted lines by John J. Boyer on November 16, 2001, at 15:24]

Hi:

>I'm using "easyzip", but can't figure out how to get it to extract the
>files. Maybe you could send your utility to me as an attachment at
>director@chpi.org

There must've been a misunderstanding somewhere. I don't have any Windows
utility for unpacking a Linux archive. In fact, I don't even use Windows at
all.

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