Re: Static IPs

["John J. Boyer" <director@chpi.org>]

Andor,
Well, it's partly a matter of personal preference. I have a background of
transcribing math and science books into Braille, where it is important to
at least know that the graphics are there. And I loke to appear to know what
is going on. So I use alt tags. Sometimes it is important for a blind person
to know what pictures are on a page so they can point a sighted friend to
something that might interest them. For example, look at
http://www.chpi.org/refworks.htm
John

Computers to Help People, Inc.
http://www.chpi.org
825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:35
Subject: Re: Static IPs


> On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
>
>  > Ray,
>  > Jaws will report a graphic even if it has no alt tag. It may give the
file
>  > name of the graphic. I feel that a blind user should know when graphics
are
>  > there, so he does not appear ignorant to a sighted user. Likewise, a
blind
>  > user should know about the presence of other visual elements, and a
deaf
>  > user should know about sound elements. I don't want to seem like a fool
to
>  > my sighted colleagues.
> John, they also can be a little more approciative and know that some
things
> on a site are not visible for you (or audiable for a deaf person).
> Why do we always want to know exactly what sighted people know and make
our
> lifes that more dificult at the same time.
>
>  > John
>  >
>  > Computers to Help People, Inc.
>  > http://www.chpi.org
>  > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Ray Saldana III" <raysaldana@theriver.com>
>  > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>  > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:03
>  > Subject: Re: Static IPs
>  >
>  >
>  > > Carl, one other question, will you share your address with me? I just
want
>  > > to check it out for curiosity.
>  > >     Another question for everyone, I don't use alt tags in my web
pages. I
>  > > lay the graphics in so if you are using a screen reader you never
know
>  > they
>  > > are there. Do you feel this is a mistake? I myself am always after
the
>  > text,
>  > > and since I am unable to see the pictures, just prefer they lay in
and I
>  > am
>  > > unaware of them. This was my reasoning as I can use the text that is
what
>  > I
>  > > am after, and so prefer the pictures to be left to the sighted
community.
>  > I
>  > > would appreciate others feelings on this.
>  > >     I also use Java-applets, but lay them in so a non sighted person
never
>  > > knows they are there. In other words no interferences with the
sharing of
>  > > information. Do you guys feel this is a mistake?
>  > >     Animations I use and again lay them in the coding so they don't
>  > > interfere, sometimes this is not an easy task, but can be
accomplished
>  > with
>  > > some effort. Thanks again!
>  > > 73 RR
>  > > AB7JM
>  > > http://personal.riverusers.com/~ab7jm_gila
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
>  > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>  > > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:49 AM
>  > > Subject: Re: Static IPs
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Karl Dahlke wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >  > Someone described a pseudo-always-on dsl connection from
Ameritech,
>  > > >  > wherein the company drops you if you're not busy,
>  > > >  > and you wake up with a new ip address.
>  > > >  > What a frightening thought.
>  > > > have a look at http://www.dhs.org
>  > > > great and quick service to get a dynamic-ip with a fixed-hostname.
>  > > > Works fine.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >  > I've just started hosting my own web site, on my own machine,
>  > > >  > and I don't know why I didn't take the plunge long ago.
>  > > >  > It's easy, and it's fun.
>  > > >  > There are numerous advantages, and a couple disadvantages.
>  > > >  > Well anyways, it would be unthinkable if I had such a terrible
isp.
>  > > >  > I certainly can't reprogram all the name servers on the internet
>  > > >  > every time they decide to give me a new ip address.
>  > > >  > The cable at-home service doesn't work like that,
>  > > >  > and I have nothing but good things to say about them.
>  > > >  > They even tried to help me set up,
>  > > >  > knowing that I was on Linux.
>  > > >  > That's pretty rare.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > Getting back to the IPs;
>  > > >  > one day we lost the bill, or it got lost in the mail, or
whatever,
>  > > >  > and I was behind, so they turned off the service.
>  > > >  > I called with my credit card to turn it back on and asked,
>  > > >  > please please please,
>  > > >  > can I have my old ip back again.
>  > > >  > "Sure, we've been saving it for you."
>  > > >  > Now that's class,
>  > > >  > and its certainly important to those of us who are hosting our
own
>  > > sites.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > Karl Dahlke
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >
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