From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1121B3F791 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAEI0Yp20826 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:00:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fAEI0Y529899 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:00:34 -0500 Received: from femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.42]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fAEI0Yw29894 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:00:34 -0500 Received: from cp286066a ([65.1.246.44]) by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011114180028.CPOT10057.femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cp286066a> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:00:28 -0800 Message-ID: <008c01c16d36$3c483030$2cf60141@cp286066a> From: "David Poehlman" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20011113224437.00a65db0@mail.doorpi.net> <3.0.6.32.20011114114640.00a6fab0@mail.doorpi.net> Subject: Re: the Papenmeir Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:00:24 -0500 Organization: Hands-on Technolog(eye)s MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.freedomscientific.com has all the info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: Re: the Papenmeir Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not any more. I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note seems to have more. At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a >different question? > >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super >braille but they are real pricy options. > Original Message ----- >From: "Brent Harding" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir > > >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only >thing I >knew of besides the braille mate. >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: >>good morning list members >> >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I >use >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find >it >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want >one >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the >moove and >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be >well >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book >reader >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. >> >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot >of >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I >know >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for >one am >>going to weight >> >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device >> >> >>======================================================== >> Standard disclaimer: >> Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: >> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no >responsibility >> for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and >> * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >>======================================================== >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Blinux-list mailing list >>Blinux-list@redhat.com >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list