From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C803EA25 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAQEj0p08020 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:45:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fAQEj0k04249 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:45:00 -0500 Received: from chruser.svc.tds.net (chruser.svc.tds.net [204.246.1.38]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fAQEj0w04245 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:45:00 -0500 Received: from jumbo ([216.170.140.224]) by chruser.svc.tds.net with SMTP id <20011126144459.GIZJ14931.chruser@jumbo> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:44:59 -0600 Message-ID: <005101c17681$41083440$e08caad8@tds.net> From: "John J. Boyer" To: References: Subject: Re: brltty and simultaneous grade 2 translation Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:49:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dave, The Grade 2 translation should be on-the-fly and should affect only as much information as will fit on the display. Translating the whole screen at once would probably be a bad idea. One way the Grade 2 translator could work would be to pass it the place where the translation is to begin. It will then translate as much as will fit on the display and pass back the place where it ended. When the user advances the display it would resume where it left off. The translation tables should be provided in a form that is easily edited, so that users can make changes and write tables for new languages. A table compiler would probably be advisable to preprocess the tables before they are actually used in translation. A keystroke on the Braille display can toggle between Grade 2 and the present display mode. The table can be "compiled" when BRLTTY starts, or even recompiled on-the-fly with a special keystroke. We can do better than Jaws, which doesn't have user-accessible tables. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mielke" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 07:00 Subject: Re: brltty and simultaneous grade 2 translation > [quoted lines by Bill Gaughan on November 25, 2001, at 15:35] > > >Does anyone have plug-in code for the brltty source tree that will hot-key > >simultaneous grade 2 translation of braille on the display while keeping > >the screen as conventional text. > > How would you expect it to work? Would you expect it to apply to one line at a > time, to the whole screen (compacting several lines into fewer lines), to a > rectangular region on the screen, or what? What if, due to the number of > "special" characters, a line becomes longer than the screen width? What other > factors to you feel need to be considered? What clever ideas can be "borrowed" > from those who are already providing such a feature? What do others think? What > do those who speak languages other than English think? > > -- > Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | I believe that the Bible is the > Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | Word of God. Please contact me > EMail: dave@mielke.cc | Canada K2A 1H7 | if you're concerned about Hell. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >