From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD9B3F7EE for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADMthp07376 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADMtgn07955 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:42 -0500 Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADMtgw07950 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:42 -0500 Received: from cp286066a ([65.1.246.44]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011113225536.XMWH2326.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cp286066a> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:55:36 -0800 Message-ID: <004401c16c96$4dea4ee0$2cf60141@cp286066a> From: "David Poehlman" To: References: <20011113163615.R60583-100000@server1.shellworld.net> <000f01c16c94$c9a9e9c0$0100000a@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:55:34 -0500 Organization: Hands-on Technolog(eye)s MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have also found that using an 80 character display is ore productive. it seems that the more you can get within the grasp of your fingertips at a time, the better it is. It does take some effort though if you are used to doing things with speech. When I first started ut in dos, I started with braille. I hated going to speech but was forced to it by circumstanc. It's even better when yu use the display for navigation in real time in addition to reading I can read a line and snap right to something that needs fixing without having to fiddle with keys to do it. I can do other things while working on the computer with braille but not with speech so that makes me more productive. I have been reading braille since 1956. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Craig" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Hi Luke, I certainly didn't intend to offend anyone either. I do believe that statistically though I am on safe ground. One statistic is that 80% of blind people are unemployed and that 80% of the ones who are employed are Braille users. I based my statements on my experience and on the people I have worked with and trained throughout the years. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. I also believe that there is a huge difference in the Braille display you are using. For example, using an eighty character display is much more productive than using a 20 or 40 cell display. Tommy _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list