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From: "Jared" <stofflej@yahoo.com>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:02:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001301c16c97$388fe360$614949cf@oemcomputer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011113175053.S60583-100000@server1.shellworld.net>

Put it this way I am most productive with both. When reading programming
manuals or other manuals I can get through it a lot faster with speech. When
having to read code for programs thoe if it gets involved with any type of
complex stuff its a lot quicker to read the code in braille instead of
looking at each line 4 times with speach but this is just me and I know htat
others might be different. This is my last and only contribution on the
thread.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out


> Tommy
>
> We could toss stats for hours, and not get anywhere.  I have mine, you
> have yours', and it really doesn't matter.
>
> For the record, in my personal case, I have tried em all.  No matter.  I
> am far faster with speech.  I suggest that this may apply to a good
> portion of the rest of the working blind as well.  I don't know that it
> does, however, and I will not posit that it does, nor claim that it is
> "how it should be".  Each individual is different, and there is a 50%
> chance a particular person will go one way or the other (not considering
> those that will use both).
> However, one can not say which way anyone will or should go, and one
> should  not claim to any degree that one method "is more productive than
> another",  because that, as I said, is only 50% true.
>
> Luke
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote:
>
> > Hi Luke,
> >
> >     I certainly didn't intend to offend anyone either. I do believe that
> > statistically though I am on safe ground. One statistic is that 80% of
blind
> > people are unemployed and that 80% of the ones who are employed are
Braille
> > users. I based my statements on my experience and on the people I have
> > worked with and trained throughout the years. Of course there are
exceptions
> > to every rule. I also believe that there is a huge difference in the
Braille
> > display you are using. For example, using an eighty character display is
> > much more productive than using a 20 or 40 cell display.
> > Tommy
> >
> >
> >
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Ian Blackburn
 ` David Poehlman
   ` Brent Harding
     ` Tommy Craig
       ` David Poehlman
       ` Joel Zimba
       ` Brent Harding
         ` Tommy Craig
           ` Joel Zimba
             ` Brent Harding
       ` Janina Sajka
         ` Tommy Craig
           ` Janina Sajka
             ` philwh
               ` Janina Sajka
             ` Tommy Craig
               ` Janina Sajka
                 ` A. R. Vener
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` A. R. Vener
                       ` David Poehlman
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131727580.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                     ` Brent Harding
                 ` Tommy Craig
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` Tommy Craig
                       ` Janina Sajka
                         ` Tommy Craig
                           ` Brent Harding
                             ` Tommy Craig
                               ` Joel Zimba
                                 ` David Poehlman
                               ` Janina Sajka
                               ` Brent Harding
                                 ` philwh
                                   ` Tommy Craig
                                     ` Bill Gaughan
                                       ` Bill Gaughan
                                       ` Janina Sajka
                                         ` philwh
                                       ` Tommy Craig
                                     ` Joel Zimba
                                       ` Brent Harding
                                   ` Bill Gaughan
                                     ` Henry Yen
                                   ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.40.0111141316310.478-100000@beethoven.wgaughan. net>
                                     ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111140952050.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                 ` Brent Harding
                                   ` Janina Sajka
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111141354210.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                     ` Brent Harding
                                       ` Janina Sajka
                                         ` Joel Zimba
                                           ` Brent Harding
                                             ` Joel Zimba
                                               ` Brent Harding
                                                 ` Joel Zimba
                                                   ` Luke Davis
                                                     ` Joel Zimba
                                                       ` Luke Davis
                                                         ` Janina Sajka
                                                     ` Brent Harding
                                                       ` Luke Davis
                                                       ` Joel Zimba
                                                         ` Brent Harding
                                                   ` Brent Harding
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111151129210.1655-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                         ` Brent Harding
                           ` Janina Sajka
                             ` Luke Davis
                               ` Janina Sajka
                                 ` Tommy Craig
                               ` Tommy Craig
                                 ` Luke Davis
                                 ` Janina Sajka
                                   ` Buddy Brannan
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111151829250.1655-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                                 ` Brent Harding
                             ` Tommy Craig
                         ` Quitting (was: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out) S. Massy
                           ` David Poehlman
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131738360.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
                     ` the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Brent Harding
                       ` philwh
               ` Brent Harding
               ` Luke Davis
                 ` Tommy Craig
                   ` Luke Davis
                     ` Jared [this message]
                     ` Janina Sajka
                   ` David Poehlman
                     ` Brent Harding
                 ` Saqib Shaikh
     ` Janina Sajka
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
 Craig Powell
 ` Janina Sajka
 ` Brent Harding
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111152132350.3766-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
   ` Brent Harding
 Brent Harding
 ` Beth Wright
 ` Janina Sajka
   ` Joel Zimba
     ` Brent Harding
       ` Janina Sajka
     ` Janina Sajka
       ` Ari Moisio
         ` Janina Sajka
   ` philwh
   ` Luke Davis
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111131229070.6158-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
   ` Brent Harding
     ` David Poehlman

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