From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF423F171 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADMiYp05446 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:44:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADMiYi06152 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:44:34 -0500 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADMiXw06148 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:44:33 -0500 Received: from user-1120c44.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.48.132] helo=tecraig) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163mIC-0003wB-00 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:44:32 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01c16c94$c9a9e9c0$0100000a@mindspring.com> From: "Tommy Craig" To: References: <20011113163615.R60583-100000@server1.shellworld.net> Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:44:20 -0600 Organization: Adaptec MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Reply-To: "Tommy Craig" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Luke, I certainly didn't intend to offend anyone either. I do believe that statistically though I am on safe ground. One statistic is that 80% of blind people are unemployed and that 80% of the ones who are employed are Braille users. I based my statements on my experience and on the people I have worked with and trained throughout the years. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. I also believe that there is a huge difference in the Braille display you are using. For example, using an eighty character display is much more productive than using a 20 or 40 cell display. Tommy