From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2702F02F for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f89B8Br29129 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:08:11 -0400 Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f89B8Ag29125 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:08:10 -0400 Received: from [195.92.168.141] (helo=tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15g2Rd-0000l0-00 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 12:08:09 +0100 Received: from modem-192.bass.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.134.8.192] helo=greatgreen) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15g2Rb-00068H-00 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 12:08:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c1391f$1d1a0b20$c00886d9@essex.ac.uk> From: "Saqib Shaikh" To: References: Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 12:02:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, You were asking if there was a screen reader for the Mac. There is one: Out Spoken. Versions exist both for Mac and Win. Out Spoken has excellent braille support and also some braille. Visit the Alva web site. The US site is aagi.com, and I think the main company in Netherlands is alva.nl or similar. Let me know if you start using the Mac and find it usable. Finally I'd also like to point out that OS/2 in combination with ScreenReader/2 both from IBM makes an excellent GUII environment for the blind. Saqib Shaikh