Linux, how do you eat yours?

Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Stoppard]

I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?

Thanks,
Nigel

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Dave Hunt]

Hi,

I have a single-user, desktop workstation running Linux.  I use it for web 
searching, programming, email, irc, voice chat, listening to mp3 files, 
spreadsheet stuff, etc.  The system is Redhat and Emacspeak (with all the 
speech-enabled extensions).


-Dave

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  I use Linux for everything.  I don't use IRC much but I have ircii
configured for the times I want to play with it.

         Kenny

On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote:
> I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
> Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nigel
> 
> 
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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Kenny Hitt]

Oops, didn't realized you might want details.  I listen to several broad
band internet stations  both MP3 and ogg formats.  I can listend to Real
audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality.
I do a lot of web browsing.
I have a small local network.  I have another computer on my
network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log
into my faster desktop under a GUI.
She uses the desktop for Word processing, web
browsing, and photo editing.  Of course, we both use the systems for
email.

         Kenny
	 
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  I use Linux for everything.  I don't use IRC much but I have ircii
> configured for the times I want to play with it.
> 
>          Kenny
> 
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote:
> > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
> > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Nigel
> > 
> > 
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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Lorenzo Prince]

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Linux runs on both my home PC and my laptop and does just about everything.  And yes, it is possible to run IRC on 
Linux.  THere is a progrem called epic and another one called bitchx.  They are both IRC clients and run from the text 
console.

PRINCE

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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Stoppard]

Hi prince,
Thanks for the information, although i was woundering why you put them as an
atachment?

Thanks
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@prince.homelinux.org>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Stoppard]

Hi David, thank you for your reply.
I was thinking emacs speak might be good to use since it is the most
developed screen reader.  But how do you use it for web browsing as i have
read it is not that good with Links.
Also with emacs can you curso up and read what has previosly been typed and
appeaared on the screen when using the command prompt?

Also am not sure what you ment by all the extensions?
thanks,
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hunt" <dave.hunt2@verizon.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?


> Hi,
>
> I have a single-user, desktop workstation running Linux.  I use it for web
> searching, programming, email, irc, voice chat, listening to mp3 files,
> spreadsheet stuff, etc.  The system is Redhat and Emacspeak (with all the
> speech-enabled extensions).
>
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Stoppard]

Hi Kenny, thanks for the info.
What screen reader do you use and what do you use for web browsing and
email?

Thanks,
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?


> Oops, didn't realized you might want details.  I listen to several broad
> band internet stations  both MP3 and ogg formats.  I can listend to Real
> audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality.
> I do a lot of web browsing.
> I have a small local network.  I have another computer on my
> network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log
> into my faster desktop under a GUI.
> She uses the desktop for Word processing, web
> browsing, and photo editing.  Of course, we both use the systems for
> email.
>
>          Kenny
>
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.  I use Linux for everything.  I don't use IRC much but I have ircii
> > configured for the times I want to play with it.
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote:
> > > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
> > > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nigel
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
>
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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[kenny]

Hi.  I mostly use speakup for my screen reader.  I mostly use elinks for
browsing.  I also use lynx and links2.1 for browsers.  Each of them can
have advantages for certain sights.  Lately, I rarely use lynx since
elinks does most everything lynx can.  I test the latest versions of
speakup, so I also use yasr to help me figure out what might have went
wrong if speakup dies.
Please note the spelling for elinks, lynx, and links2.1.  They all sound
the same with speech.
For mail, I use mutt.  Mutt rules!

          Kenny

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:21:19AM -0000, Stoppard wrote:
> Hi Kenny, thanks for the info.
> What screen reader do you use and what do you use for web browsing and
> email?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nigel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?
> 
> 
> > Oops, didn't realized you might want details.  I listen to several broad
> > band internet stations  both MP3 and ogg formats.  I can listend to Real
> > audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality.
> > I do a lot of web browsing.
> > I have a small local network.  I have another computer on my
> > network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log
> > into my faster desktop under a GUI.
> > She uses the desktop for Word processing, web
> > browsing, and photo editing.  Of course, we both use the systems for
> > email.
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > > Hi.  I use Linux for everything.  I don't use IRC much but I have ircii
> > > configured for the times I want to play with it.
> > >
> > >          Kenny
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote:
> > > > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
> > > > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Nigel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> >
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> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
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> 
> 
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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Dave Hunt]

Hi,

Many of the tools I use with emacspeak are either entirely written in
emacs-lisp or front ends for accessing tools written in other
languages.  Emacspeak, itself, is one of the former.  All these are
extensions of emacs's feature set.  

I have three web clients I use with emacspeak,  w3, w3m, and lynx.
There's a nice mode for launching and running lynx from within
emacspeak.  W3 is a web client, written entirely in emacs-lisp.  Finally, there's a
speech-enabled "front end" for the w3m web client.  I need three
because none works on all sites I often visit.  

For irc and other things, I run a shell (mine happens to be BASH),
from within emacs.  All the editing features of emacs are available in
a shell buffer.  Thus, you can move around the buffer, do searches,
save a bunch of commands and responses, and so on.  It's better than
any screen-review mode; you have a running log of your shell session.  


This letter is written with yet another emacspeak-enabled extension
called VM.  


-Dave

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Lorenzo Prince]

Stoppard staggered into view and mumbled:
> Hi prince,
> Thanks for the information, although i was woundering why you put them as an
> atachment?

It has something to do with my GPG signature.  Any time I digitally sign a message, it saparates the body and signature 
into attachments.  I am using Mutt, and don't know how to fix this, unless I can get some help on that.

PRINCE

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Jude DaShiell]

Not only irc but micq too.  Search for the naim package and that sould get
you going if you need text interface.

micq?

[Stoppard]

Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq?

Thanks, Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?


> Not only irc but micq too.  Search for the naim package and that sould get
> you going if you need text interface.
>
>
>
>
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micq?

[Dave Hunt]

I reckon he's saying Micq is available.  Maybe I'll try it.  I have an
icq number, but never use it.  I already have an emacs package for
AIM, called tnt.  It works well enough.

-Dave

    Stoppard> Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package
    Stoppard> called micq?

Re: micq?

[Jois]

At 15.47 05/12/2003, you wrote:
>Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq?
yep, it does
and there is another one, more windows-friendly, called centericq.
http://www.centericq.de
and another one more, called ysm
http://ysmv7.sourceforge.net
but with this last one, I do not manage to check when I have many users 
writing messages to me.
I use centericq, but it's quite a trouble to add contacts, and there's no 
way to send files.

Re: micq?

[Jude DaShiell]

no, icq is another protocol different from irc.  The reason I didn't
mention micq earlier is that it's a single protocol package.  naim is a
multiple protocol package as is centeric but naim is easier to figure out
and get working.

Re: micq?

[Jois]

naim. Where is the package you mentioned?
where could I find it?

Re: micq?

[Stoppard]

And this is all from the command prompt?

thanks,
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jois" <antipalladium@screentiful.it>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: micq?


> At 15.47 05/12/2003, you wrote:
> >Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq?
> yep, it does
> and there is another one, more windows-friendly, called centericq.
> http://www.centericq.de
> and another one more, called ysm
> http://ysmv7.sourceforge.net
> but with this last one, I do not manage to check when I have many users
> writing messages to me.
> I use centericq, but it's quite a trouble to add contacts, and there's no
> way to send files.
>
>
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Re: micq?

[Jois]

At 16.57 05/12/2003, you wrote:
>And this is all from the command prompt?
yes it's by console.
I hope to get information about naim, I am interested in that package

Re: micq?

[Jude DaShiell]

Well, try http://naim.n.ml.org/.

Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Stoppard]

Hi Dave,
If i understand you correctly then you need to get extension packages for
emacs for programs that do not work with emacs by default?  Is this a bit
like requiring different script files for jaws to work with different
applications?
I take it  you need VM to work with your mail client through emacs speak?

Thanks in advance,
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hunt" <dave.hunt2@verizon.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?


> Hi,
>
> Many of the tools I use with emacspeak are either entirely written in
> emacs-lisp or front ends for accessing tools written in other
> languages.  Emacspeak, itself, is one of the former.  All these are
> extensions of emacs's feature set.
>
> I have three web clients I use with emacspeak,  w3, w3m, and lynx.
> There's a nice mode for launching and running lynx from within
> emacspeak.  W3 is a web client, written entirely in emacs-lisp.  Finally,
there's a
> speech-enabled "front end" for the w3m web client.  I need three
> because none works on all sites I often visit.
>
> For irc and other things, I run a shell (mine happens to be BASH),
> from within emacs.  All the editing features of emacs are available in
> a shell buffer.  Thus, you can move around the buffer, do searches,
> save a bunch of commands and responses, and so on.  It's better than
> any screen-review mode; you have a running log of your shell session.
>
>
> This letter is written with yet another emacspeak-enabled extension
> called VM.
>
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
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Re: Linux, how do you eat yours?

[Dave Hunt]

I suppose speech-enabling an emacs extension is analogous to writing
JFW scripts for an application.  Furthermore, an emacs extension is
like writing scripts for emacs.  VM, btw, is an emacs extension; it is
an email client.  Consider emacs and extensions to be a kind of "desk
top".  For a complete discussion, have a look at
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html.


-Dave