From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (nat-pix.rdu.redhat.com [10.255.18.200]) by listman.rdu-colo.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h51LL2503456 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:21:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h51LLRV11736 for blinux-list@listman.rdu-colo.redhat.com; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:21:27 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h51LLRI11731 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:21:27 -0400 Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h51LLRH09696 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:21:27 -0400 Received: from dsl-10.telebyte.net (HELO tomlaptop) (kd7cyu@216.173.216.10 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 21:21:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c32883$b44eb630$0200000a@tomlaptop> From: "Tom Masterson" To: References: Subject: Re: msn registration Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:21:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: below is the reply from Microsoft. Take it for what is worth. TOm Thanks. I'll make certain the product group gets the information. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorenzo Prince" To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 16:36 Subject: Re: msn registration > I think about the only thing to do is to sue Microsoft. Sounds crazy, but > unfortunately it's true. Even if you could get to the link, the audio > file that is provided is "intentionally garbled" according to the page > where I found it. And if you try to listen to it, it will take you many > many tries before you gan get one you can halfway understand. My wife > still uses windows and I was trying to set her up with a passport so she > could use the messenger, and so that's how I found out just how hard they > intentionally make it for blind or visually impaired people to actually > get a passport account. It took me about an hour and a half just to get > her signed up, and the majority of the time was spent going to the exact > link to which you are referring over and over because their audio file was > too garbled to understand. Then when I called Microsoft in an attempt to > resolve the problem, I got nothing but the royal run-around. No one > wanted to even take the time to listen. One person told me she would let > me talk to her supervisor to try to work out the problem and promptly put > me on hold for 15 minutes only to hang up on me. And then somebody > finally gave me the number to their legal department, which turned out to > be nothing more than a bunch of voice mail and prerecorded messages. > So to briefly sum things up, I don't think we will get any cooperation > from Microsoft and we will have to resort to legal remedies just like so > many other people including the government have had to do in the past. > Although this time, I hope the results are a little more favorable for us, > as so far, Microsoft seems to still be able to continue doing everything > the courts told them they can't do anymore, and seem to be able to get > away with all of it somehow. > I didn't mean to take up so much time and disk space ranting, but I felt > this was probably the best place to let people know what Microsoft is > doing now and what needs to be done to remedy the situation, since we were > on the topic of setting up a passport account. > > Thanks for listening, and good luck! > Lorenzo > > [In 'Doctor' mode], I spent a good ten minutes telling Emacs what I > thought of it. (The response was, 'Perhaps you could try to be less > abusive.') > -- Matt Welsh > > Cheryl Homiak staggered into view and mumbled: > > > Since centericq doesn't support registration, I went to www.msn.com. Is the > > passport there what I want to register for? At any rate, they had a picture > > where you type in the characters, and they had a link to use if you can't see > > the picture. Only, in lynx, it's (you guessed it) "unsupported url scheme!" > > Haven't tried it in link the chain yet. I'd like to know if there's an easier > > way to do this if anybody has accomplished it. > > Thanks. > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list