From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A4A2F16F for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f3SKVG803685 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:31:16 -0400 Received: from kodos.svc.tds.net (kodos.svc.tds.net [204.246.1.4]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f3SKVGb03681 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:31:16 -0400 Received: from jumbo (mawimain7-224.dsl.tds.net [216.170.140.224]) by kodos.svc.tds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA24833 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:34:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c0d01a$23a4bda0$e08caad8@tds.net> From: "John J. Boyer" To: References: <20010428192311.A29351@khan.acc.umu.se> Subject: Re: writing screenreader friendly software Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:33:44 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Peter, Jaws has ways of showing various types of highlighting, including bold and underline, by using dots 7 and 8 in various combinations on an 8-dot Braille display. Usually, highlighted text is indicated by turning on both dats 7 and 8. I have not tried other options, since this has been sufficient. So if I am reading a Web page and come on words that have dots 7 and 8 raised, I know this is probably a link. Jawws also puts the word "link" or "graphic" on the display. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Toneby" To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 13:23 Subject: writing screenreader friendly software > Hello > > I'm currently working on a (to be free) player for Daisy-books, now > I've got some of the basic dataparsing working and want to move onto > the UI but I'm not sure how to make it so it fits screenreaders. > > My primary concern are braille displays, because according to a friend > of mine they can't show bold, underline or any other kind of > charactermodifications. > > My questions about this are: > 1. How should I design the UI? (see below for my thoughts) > 2. What library should I use to write it? are some better than others? > 3. Are there any special considerations I should take to make things > work with both braille displays and speech synthesizers? > > Daisy is an open standard based on standard fileformats such as xhtml > (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/), smil (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-smil) > and mp3. > > The layout of the book is pretty much like a normal printed book, there > is a table of contents (ToC), from this ToC links lead to .smil-files > which in turn points to the exect (1/100th of s exact) point in the > audiostream to play, these .smil-files also points where in the text of > the book the narrator reads. > > And now my thoughts on the UI-issue (only for the ToC). > I think that a lynx-like UI is the best to use for the ToC, but because > braille displays can not show bold text I need to show on which line > there are 1 link and where there are >1 links. The ToC is built from > -tags and -tags (containing links). The header-tags are > required to be sections (they should follow the printed book as closley > as possible) and the span-tags contains links to pages. > > So to diffrentiate between these I'm thinking about reserving the 2 > leftmost columns to show if the line is a heading or contains pages. > I was thinking about using '*' for headings and '>' for pages, but I > don't know how much these differs on different displays (I'm sighted and > do not have easy access to any braille-displays). So it would look > something like this: > * 15. Treatment of Early Trauma and Insight > > 217 218 219 220 > > So now, flame on and give me some nice input on this and you might have > a free, open source Daisy-player "soon" (this is a for fun, sparetime > project, so sometimes it goes unattended for a few weeks). > > /Peter Toneby > -- > Alpha Test Version: Too buggy to be released to the paying public. > Beta Test Version: Still too buggy to be released. > Release Version: Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version". > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >