From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2D3EA60 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g944UhG07413 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:30:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g944Uhf07409 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:30:43 -0400 Received: from mail.azboss.net (IDENT:root@nfs.azboss.net [206.124.164.2]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g944Ba017378 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:11:37 -0400 Received: from NU7I (gw.shandrow.com [206.124.184.73]) by mail.azboss.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id g944Tjc16011 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:29:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c26b5e$cc24d920$0201a8c0@NU7I> From: "Darrell Shandrow" To: References: <20021004035841.GA13700@dalek> Subject: Re: RedHat and accessibility Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:30:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Buddy, Well, since I intend no piracy, I have no trouble signing NDAs, as long as it means I will indeed gain the access I need. I just signed one for Sybex 3 days ago to get the MS Word version of their CCNA Study Guide... I take a very reasonable approach; I'll do anything that is reasonable as long as the company in question is working with me cooperatively towards accessibility. But, in Jason's case, it seems RedHat was actually trying to take steps to actively interfere with a blind person's progress in his life as a human being, let alone a qualified Linux tech. Hmmm, how to effectively teach RedHat a useful lesson in access that will result in positive change? This was a pretty aggregious example to me. Even Microsoft is better than RedHat here!!! Hmmm, one idea... Maybe we should start with RedHat corporate management staff? If we get no results, start a letter-writing campaign to all the authors and teams who created all the various open-source packages RedHat provides in order to explain how RedHat is violating open-source principles and acting in a detrimental manner towards a subsection of its customers and users? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: Re: RedHat and accessibility > Uhh. > > NDA's are evil. Full stop. > > WTF is Redhat, purportedly a champion of (at least) the open source > concept, and one would think as well the free software concept, doing > making people sign NDA's?! That's really wacked! > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | "And if the ground yawned, > Phone: (814) 455-7333 | I'd step to the side and say, > Email: davros@ycardz.com | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" > http://www.ycardz.com/ | --Eddie From Ohio > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list