Elba list and questions

Elba list and questions

[peter.rayner]

Like several others here I'm noticing a distinct lack of response from
the elba discussion list.  I received the usual confirmation of my
message last week but haven't seen a single item on the list.  
I'll ask the same questions here ... it's only technically "on topic"
since the beast runs linux underneath but I acknowledge there's a
better list ... if it works.   Oh, the list owner hasn't responded
either.  

Here's my questions:
1) I ordered, I hope, both English and French for the machine.  I
assumed this would cover both speech synthesis and braille.  But I
don't see language options in the braille set-up.  Can I enter and
read Grade II braille in more than one language?  
If not, I would like to change this from French to English since I can
scarcely read French grade II yet anyway.  If necessary, is this
possible at the user level or do I need help from Papenmeier and/or
the local distributor?    I also would not mind changing the language
of interaction from French to English.  I'm used to calling this the
"locale" and know how to set it on other distributions of linux but it
didn't seem to work here.  
2) USB keys?  I didn't see these in the manual as among the supported
mass storage options.   They are my preferred option though.  Are they
supported?  
3) Wireless.  I'm guessing the version of the manual I have is not
up-to-date.  Does anyone know a list of currently made and supported
wireless  cards? 
4) USB ADSL modems.  This is very unlikely.  I note pppoe is supported
but how about devices like the eagle-usb-based modems often supplied
with ADSL accounts, at least in France.  I've only just got these to
work on my normal linux box so am not optimistic here.   
5)  Site for updates.  When I boot up my machine says 
elba rev 123
my manual is for 1.41 and people are talking about a more recent
update.  I couldn't find this on the papenmeier site and the manual
wasn't  forthcoming about *where* one found these.  
Again, apologies for the marginal topic-group match and people should
perhaps reply to me off-line.
regards
Peter 


-- 
Peter Rayner
LSCE - CEA de Saclay
Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif/Yvette
work: +33  (1) 69 08 88 11;	mobile: +33 (6) 75 46 56 52;	 fax: +33 (1) 69 08 77 16
mail-to: peter.rayner@cea.fr

Re: Elba list and questions

[John J. Boyer]

Peter,

Unfortunately, I can't answer any of your questions, but I would like to 
ask another: When will the Elba be usable as a braille display for a 
computer through its USB port?

I think the Elba list should be moved from smartgroups to freelists.org 
. For some reason, smartgroups just won't handle my messages correctly. 
It's the only place where I have problems. freelists.org is a much more 
suitable place for this list anyway.

John

On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:27:23PM +0100, peter.rayner@cea.fr wrote:
> Like several others here I'm noticing a distinct lack of response from
> the elba discussion list.  I received the usual confirmation of my
> message last week but haven't seen a single item on the list.  
> I'll ask the same questions here ... it's only technically "on topic"
> since the beast runs linux underneath but I acknowledge there's a
> better list ... if it works.   Oh, the list owner hasn't responded
> either.  
> 
> Here's my questions:
> 1) I ordered, I hope, both English and French for the machine.  I
> assumed this would cover both speech synthesis and braille.  But I
> don't see language options in the braille set-up.  Can I enter and
> read Grade II braille in more than one language?  
> If not, I would like to change this from French to English since I can
> scarcely read French grade II yet anyway.  If necessary, is this
> possible at the user level or do I need help from Papenmeier and/or
> the local distributor?    I also would not mind changing the language
> of interaction from French to English.  I'm used to calling this the
> "locale" and know how to set it on other distributions of linux but it
> didn't seem to work here.  
> 2) USB keys?  I didn't see these in the manual as among the supported
> mass storage options.   They are my preferred option though.  Are they
> supported?  
> 3) Wireless.  I'm guessing the version of the manual I have is not
> up-to-date.  Does anyone know a list of currently made and supported
> wireless  cards? 
> 4) USB ADSL modems.  This is very unlikely.  I note pppoe is supported
> but how about devices like the eagle-usb-based modems often supplied
> with ADSL accounts, at least in France.  I've only just got these to
> work on my normal linux box so am not optimistic here.   
> 5)  Site for updates.  When I boot up my machine says 
> elba rev 123
> my manual is for 1.41 and people are talking about a more recent
> update.  I couldn't find this on the papenmeier site and the manual
> wasn't  forthcoming about *where* one found these.  
> Again, apologies for the marginal topic-group match and people should
> perhaps reply to me off-line.
> regards
> Peter 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Rayner
> LSCE - CEA de Saclay
> Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif/Yvette
> work: +33  (1) 69 08 88 11;	mobile: +33 (6) 75 46 56 52;	 fax: +33 (1) 69 08 77 16
> mail-to: peter.rayner@cea.fr
> 
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Elba list and questions

[John covici]

The list did receive your message -- maybe no one knew how to answer
it.  You should contact the technical support phone number to find out
more information.  I can tell you one thing, no usb storage is
supported ta all since this is a slave device and the usb is not
supported even as a slave.

on Monday 03/14/2005 peter.rayner@cea.fr(peter.rayner@cea.fr) wrote
 > Like several others here I'm noticing a distinct lack of response from
 > the elba discussion list.  I received the usual confirmation of my
 > message last week but haven't seen a single item on the list.  
 > I'll ask the same questions here ... it's only technically "on topic"
 > since the beast runs linux underneath but I acknowledge there's a
 > better list ... if it works.   Oh, the list owner hasn't responded
 > either.  
 > 
 > Here's my questions:
 > 1) I ordered, I hope, both English and French for the machine.  I
 > assumed this would cover both speech synthesis and braille.  But I
 > don't see language options in the braille set-up.  Can I enter and
 > read Grade II braille in more than one language?  
 > If not, I would like to change this from French to English since I can
 > scarcely read French grade II yet anyway.  If necessary, is this
 > possible at the user level or do I need help from Papenmeier and/or
 > the local distributor?    I also would not mind changing the language
 > of interaction from French to English.  I'm used to calling this the
 > "locale" and know how to set it on other distributions of linux but it
 > didn't seem to work here.  
 > 2) USB keys?  I didn't see these in the manual as among the supported
 > mass storage options.   They are my preferred option though.  Are they
 > supported?  
 > 3) Wireless.  I'm guessing the version of the manual I have is not
 > up-to-date.  Does anyone know a list of currently made and supported
 > wireless  cards? 
 > 4) USB ADSL modems.  This is very unlikely.  I note pppoe is supported
 > but how about devices like the eagle-usb-based modems often supplied
 > with ADSL accounts, at least in France.  I've only just got these to
 > work on my normal linux box so am not optimistic here.   
 > 5)  Site for updates.  When I boot up my machine says 
 > elba rev 123
 > my manual is for 1.41 and people are talking about a more recent
 > update.  I couldn't find this on the papenmeier site and the manual
 > wasn't  forthcoming about *where* one found these.  
 > Again, apologies for the marginal topic-group match and people should
 > perhaps reply to me off-line.
 > regards
 > Peter 
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Peter Rayner
 > LSCE - CEA de Saclay
 > Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif/Yvette
 > work: +33  (1) 69 08 88 11;	mobile: +33 (6) 75 46 56 52;	 fax: +33 (1) 69 08 77 16
 > mail-to: peter.rayner@cea.fr
 > 
 > _______________________________________________
 > Blinux-list mailing list
 > Blinux-list@redhat.com
 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

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RE: Elba list and questions

[Tommy Craig]

Hi Peter, 

	I just got your message on the Elba list last night. I'm sorry I
didn't respond faster but I think it's reasonable to wait until the next
work day to respond. 

	First of all, I deal primarily with the U.S. market and so I don't
do a lot with dual language machines. As I understand it though you have to
choose a language that will be your default. This is due to the prompts and
everything else being set up in that language. Then you can add up to 3 more
languages to the machine but these will primarily be used in documents. For
example, if I were taking a French class I could write files for that class
in French and have them read back to me in French. 

	Everything on the Elba can be set up by the user. If you got the
wrong version, such as a French machine and you wanted English all you have
to do is flash a new firmware to the Elba. This is done in the same way as
updating the firmware. You will need to talk to your distributor or
Papenmeier to obtain this software. 

	As for the version number of the Elba, there are two versions. The
one that you see when the machine is turned on is a hardware version. This
number is usually either 1.21 or 1.23. There is really very little
difference between the versions. It only affected a specific language issue
with certain languages. The version that the manual refers to is also spoken
when the Elba boots. It should come up just before you get to the control
center. Depending on the country you are in, this will probably be either
1.41 or 1.50. This is the firmware version and when the machine is updated
this changes. 

	In the U.S. the released version is 1.41 and I will be posting a 1.5
version this week. 

	As for USB drives, we don't support them. The USB port is a client
and not a host. I believe that this rules out your USB modem option also. 

	I hope this helps you get started. Let me know if I can be of more
help. 

Tommy


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Subject: Elba list and questions


Like several others here I'm noticing a distinct lack of response from the
elba discussion list.  I received the usual confirmation of my message last
week but haven't seen a single item on the list.  
I'll ask the same questions here ... it's only technically "on topic" since
the beast runs linux underneath but I acknowledge there's a
better list ... if it works.   Oh, the list owner hasn't responded
either.  

Here's my questions:
1) I ordered, I hope, both English and French for the machine.  I assumed
this would cover both speech synthesis and braille.  But I don't see
language options in the braille set-up.  Can I enter and read Grade II
braille in more than one language?  
If not, I would like to change this from French to English since I can
scarcely read French grade II yet anyway.  If necessary, is this possible at
the user level or do I need help from Papenmeier and/or
the local distributor?    I also would not mind changing the language
of interaction from French to English.  I'm used to calling this the
"locale" and know how to set it on other distributions of linux but it
didn't seem to work here.  
2) USB keys?  I didn't see these in the manual as among the supported
mass storage options.   They are my preferred option though.  Are they
supported?  
3) Wireless.  I'm guessing the version of the manual I have is not
up-to-date.  Does anyone know a list of currently made and supported
wireless  cards? 
4) USB ADSL modems.  This is very unlikely.  I note pppoe is supported but
how about devices like the eagle-usb-based modems often supplied with ADSL
accounts, at least in France.  I've only just got these to
work on my normal linux box so am not optimistic here.   
5)  Site for updates.  When I boot up my machine says 
elba rev 123
my manual is for 1.41 and people are talking about a more recent update.  I
couldn't find this on the papenmeier site and the manual wasn't  forthcoming
about *where* one found these.  
Again, apologies for the marginal topic-group match and people should
perhaps reply to me off-line. regards Peter 


-- 
Peter Rayner
LSCE - CEA de Saclay
Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif/Yvette
work: +33  (1) 69 08 88 11;	mobile: +33 (6) 75 46 56 52;	 fax: +33
(1) 69 08 77 16
mail-to: peter.rayner@cea.fr

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